NL Wildcard - Tuesday 7:05 - TBS

[Turk Nowitzki]

I mean for as poorly as Hader pitched, it still took an incorrect HBP, the ultimate broken bat flare, and a high school level error for the Nationals to take the lead there.

[trwi7]

That Rockies' series sunk the Brewers from multiple perspectives. Killed momentum

Haha

What?

The momentum was killed so badly that they got to the 8th inning holding a 3-1 lead.

[Bernman]

Haha

What?

The momentum was killed so badly that they got to the 8th inning holding a 3-1 lead.

And then they blew the early lead like each of the last 3 games. "here we go again". Confidence or lack there of is a bitch. 18-2 and then 0-4. If you don't think that's a real thing then you didn't play nor remember much sport.

[humanrefutation]

lost in the Hader choking is the Grisham **** up, double whammy

Yeah, Grisham fielding that keeps us in a tie game.

[ClassicJack]

As a casual, besides the collapse tonight, does this really suck that much? I was pretty much feeling that any hopes for a ring went down the drain when Yeli got hurt so what happened afterwards including getting to this game was my cake with the icing.

Were we really out here thinking we had a chance to win the chip this year?

[trwi7]

What?

The momentum was killed so badly that they got to the 8th inning holding a 3-1 lead.

And then they blew the early lead like each of the last 3 games. "here we go again". Confidence or lack there of is a bitch. 18-2 and then 0-4. If you don't think that's a real thing then you didn't play nor remember much sport.

Yep, it was all on the team and not a **** pitching performance with some bad luck (ball off the bat not called, a bloop single that leaves the bat at under 70 mph.)

If only they had confidence the umps would've called that a foul ball and the bloop would've hung up in the air long enough to be caught.

[humanrefutation]

As a casual, besides the collapse tonight, does this really suck that much? I was pretty much feeling that any hopes for a ring went down the drain when Yeli got hurt so what happened afterwards including getting to this game was my cake with the icing.

Were we really out here thinking we had a chance to win the chip this year?

That's easy to say until you're up two with four outs to go and your All-Star closer is up.

[Wisky4life]

Should of won.....

On to next year.

[Iheartfootball]

As a casual, besides the collapse tonight, does this really suck that much? I was pretty much feeling that any hopes for a ring went down the drain when Yeli got hurt so what happened afterwards including getting to this game was my cake with the icing.

Were we really out here thinking we had a chance to win the chip this year?

That’s an objective view. They’ll be none of that here. This is home to hot takes and overreactions.

[Bernman]

Yep, it was all on the team and not a **** pitching performance with some bad luck (ball off the bat not called, a bloop single that leaves the bat at under 70 mph.)

If only they had confidence the umps would've called that a foul ball and the bloop would've hung up in the air long enough to be caught.

If you have a ball hit the knob of the bat when it would have hit the batter first 99% of the time, that's great luck. You're cherry-picking. They had some luck with favorable strike calls and that ball dying at the fence in one of the deepest parts of the park to avoid a 2-r hr early. Luck about evened out. That's more unreasonable to attribute the loss to bad luck and not see the big picture.

Lack of confidence/feeling pressure contributes to bad hitting, fielding, and pitching performance. Cause-effect. There were multiple factors in the loss, loss of belief they'd succeed, individually and collectively, was one, a trend.

[Buck You]

lost in the Hader choking is the Grisham **** up, double whammy

Yeah, Grisham fielding that keeps us in a tie game.

Hader wasn’t getting anybody out regardless. Grisham def screwed up but I think runs were coming across regardless. The outs he got were hitters chasing pitches.

[humanrefutation]

I don't think it makes sense to assume that Hader blew it because of a loss of belief or a loss of momentum. Pitchers sometimes struggle. Is that a product of a mental struggle, a physical issue with mechanics, a loss of belief? Who tf knows. We're not in his head.

In the Rockies game, he gave up a bomb. In this game, he "hit" a guy, got a bloop, walked a guy, and gave up the only single he's given up to a lefty all year. It's not even the same scenario. Just the same result.

[Kerb Hohl]

Haha

What?

The momentum was killed so badly that they got to the 8th inning holding a 3-1 lead.

I’ve never seen so many sports cliches thrown at a wall.

[Kerb Hohl]

This team was horribly overmatched the entire 2nd half of the season as injuries and busts started to pile up. At some point confidence doesn’t matter, flukes of a playoff game + talent simply beat you. If we were facing the Pirates we’d have kept piling up runs. Instead, we were facing 2 pitchers that made a combined $75 million this year.

What in god’s name are you talking about with confidence? That had been Hader’s issue all year and I doubt has anything to do with how confident that Lo Cain felt standing in CF or something. And the team was confident enough to win 90% of their games over the past 35 days and have a 3-1 lead on Max Scherzer and Strasburg.

[trwi7]

If you have a ball hit the knob of the bat when it would have hit the batter first 99% of the time, that's great luck.

Well it would've been ball 4, so it didn't have to hit the batter. Either way it was a **** pitch that clearly should've been overturned on replay and wasn't. Maybe he walks him on the next pitch, maybe he gives up a homer, maybe he strikes him out. The fact we didn't get to find out is bad luck.

You're cherry-picking. They had some luck with favorable strike calls

The favorable strike calls would've led to a 4 pitch walk and the batter ended up reaching base anyways.

Lack of confidence/feeling pressure contributes to bad hitting, fielding, and pitching performance. Cause-effect. There were multiple factors in the loss, loss of belief they'd succeed, individually and collectively, was one, a trend.

They got 3 runs off a top 5 pitcher and a top 10 pitcher shut them down for a few innings. Jesus Christ, you make it sound like we faced Wes Obermueller and Matt Kinney. Of course there was likely to be bad hitting. The pitching performance until they got to Hader was basically everything they could've hoped for. Grisham made an error hard charging a ball trying to keep the Brewers in the lead and missed it. **** happens. It didn't have anything to do with lack of confidence and if he could play it all over again, he'd probably just let the tying run score and get it back to 2nd.

But you be you. Everything always has to have some ridiculous no confidence explanation from you.

[MissKhriddleton]

Very cool game. The only worse possible outcome would have been for the Nats to walk off in the 9th.

I think I've become numb to Wisconsin sports that I don't have a large amount of money on. I was waiting for it to happen all game and when it did it was almost comforting because it felt so familiar. Tuck me into bed sweet misery.

[GBPackers47]

Very cool game. The only worse possible outcome would have been for the Nats to walk off in the 9th.

I think I've become numb to Wisconsin sports that I don't have a large amount of money on. I was waiting for it to happen all game and when it did it was almost comforting because it felt so familiar. Tuck me into bed sweet misery.

this.

Wisconsin sports as a whole have been such a letdown for almost a decade, always falling short in years they should have gone further.

Doesn't even hurt anymore.

[neiLz]

Was a good run. Sucks but teams get lucky. I'm more pissed about dumbass casuals that want counsel fired and want Hader gone for giving up the lead even though it was on some lucky ass ****. Why are brewers fans so goddamn stupid?

[ibanezjp]

Man nothing will test your nerves like having a lead almost an entire elimination game. Way less stressful when you’re chasing. Those Nats fans got to pout in their beers the whole game then effing explode at the end. That said it was an enjoyable game until the end and a really fun start to the game. Sadly this is what Hader did many times this year. I’m not even close to being as crushed as I was last year. We all knew middle of summer this team wasn’t nearly as good as last year. Once I had decided we weren’t true title contenders like last year whatever positive happened this year became icing on the cake. Then before our crazy September when we looked really cooked I had decided we were done so going on the run to get into the playoffs was the pinnacle of this season. Had we won tonight my best case scenario was try to upset the team that eliminated us last year and then bow out after that when we would’ve probably ran out of gas. Realistically though Dodgers should have best us easily. In Wisconsin sports post season games this was pretty low stakes, not Bucks 8th seed against Lebron‘s Heat low, but still pretty low. So many more crushing losses that had much higher stakes. This felt a lot like the 2013 season when the packers lost for the 2nd year in a row to the niners. Yes we almost won that game too but that team really wasn’t gonna do anything that head, especially not against that juggernaut Seahawks team. Yes it would’ve been really cool to win tonight but we knew from mid summer our real chance was the year before. I say next year let’s get Knebel back to closing and Hader back to 7th & 8th inning guy and hope we have a better starting staff next year. Hopefully get Grandal back and hope Shaw becomes a ball player again if not gonna sign Moose. Whole year of Hiura and Yelich back and things could be looking pretty good.

[Kerb Hohl]

This one is a bit different to me and not “Wisconsin sports” because there wasn’t a chance in hell we were going much further. The NCAA basketball title game still is the pinnacle of it for me because we’ll never be back.

At least I’ve seen the Packers win and the Bucks have a chance...and while I see the Brewers falling short a lot in this era, I can imagine them winning it someday.