Matches Malone wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:Now get Giannis done and we'll be set in Milwaukee for awhile.
Was thinking the same thing. Maybe Yeli can whisper in Giannis ear to stay lol.
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Matches Malone wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:Now get Giannis done and we'll be set in Milwaukee for awhile.
Was thinking the same thing. Maybe Yeli can whisper in Giannis ear to stay lol.
wallus wrote:If we had this kind of money to spend, I would rather have put it towards a 3B such as Rendon, Donaldson or Arenado. I'm not upset because I really love Yelich as a player and person but don't think this is a great use of resources.
See Bobby Bonilla/MetsMAC1987 wrote:What do the deferrals mean exactly? Defer some money to different years?
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humanrefutation wrote:wallus wrote:If we had this kind of money to spend, I would rather have put it towards a 3B such as Rendon, Donaldson or Arenado. I'm not upset because I really love Yelich as a player and person but don't think this is a great use of resources.
Rendon and Arenado both got paid more than Yelich - and not by insignificant amounts of money. That's putting aside the real question as to whether they're better than Yelich, let alone whether they'd want to come here.
Also, no offense, but complaining about use of resources while simultaneously advocating that we pay $92M+ over four years for a 34 year old Josh Donaldson - the contract he just signed with the Twins - is some cognitive dissonance.
wallus wrote:humanrefutation wrote:wallus wrote:If we had this kind of money to spend, I would rather have put it towards a 3B such as Rendon, Donaldson or Arenado. I'm not upset because I really love Yelich as a player and person but don't think this is a great use of resources.
Rendon and Arenado both got paid more than Yelich - and not by insignificant amounts of money. That's putting aside the real question as to whether they're better than Yelich, let alone whether they'd want to come here.
Also, no offense, but complaining about use of resources while simultaneously advocating that we pay $92M+ over four years for a 34 year old Josh Donaldson - the contract he just signed with the Twins - is some cognitive dissonance.
The question isn't if they are better than Yelich. The question is if we are better with these other guys playing 3rd base versus the guys we have under contract AND Yelich for the next 3 years.
Also if you knew you were signing someone for big money, you could have spent less in other areas. Let's just pick Rendon (my favorite pick of the bunch). Don't sign Sogard, Smoak, and Gyorko. Trade for Dom Smith from the Mets to play first base. (these were about 13 million in contracts) The way Rendon's contract was setup was less money in the first two years. This would give us a 3 year window with a cheap Yelich to get it done. Next year we lose Braun's contract, then lose Cain's contract after 2022.
Josh Donaldson (my least favorite of the 3) was a 6 WAR player in 2019 and projected to have a similar year in 2020. I don't see how extending Yelich until he is 37, when we had him locked up during his peak, will get us closer to a World Series.
Also, I see tons of people bemoaning the Braun contract over the last few years and this is in the same realm.
humanrefutation wrote:wallus wrote:humanrefutation wrote:
Rendon and Arenado both got paid more than Yelich - and not by insignificant amounts of money. That's putting aside the real question as to whether they're better than Yelich, let alone whether they'd want to come here.
Also, no offense, but complaining about use of resources while simultaneously advocating that we pay $92M+ over four years for a 34 year old Josh Donaldson - the contract he just signed with the Twins - is some cognitive dissonance.
The question isn't if they are better than Yelich. The question is if we are better with these other guys playing 3rd base versus the guys we have under contract AND Yelich for the next 3 years.
Also if you knew you were signing someone for big money, you could have spent less in other areas. Let's just pick Rendon (my favorite pick of the bunch). Don't sign Sogard, Smoak, and Gyorko. Trade for Dom Smith from the Mets to play first base. (these were about 13 million in contracts) The way Rendon's contract was setup was less money in the first two years. This would give us a 3 year window with a cheap Yelich to get it done. Next year we lose Braun's contract, then lose Cain's contract after 2022.
Josh Donaldson (my least favorite of the 3) was a 6 WAR player in 2019 and projected to have a similar year in 2020. I don't see how extending Yelich until he is 37, when we had him locked up during his peak, will get us closer to a World Series.
Also, I see tons of people bemoaning the Braun contract over the last few years and this is in the same realm.
Even if you subtract those contracts, you're still about $23m per year short of paying Arenado or Rendon. Yelich AAV is about $10m per year more than he's getting right now, but we don't know how much is deferred so it might be less than that. You're still stuck with about a $13m per year gap - about $90m plus over the life of the contract. Not an insignificant amount of money.
That's without factoring whether they would want to sign here.
The Braun contract was wildly celebrated when it was handed out, but it's been bemoaned in large part because of what was discovered soon after he signed it - that he was using PEDs. It was a false bill of goods.
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Did we "save $20m-30 this year" to sprinkle on his contract further down the road? If so, I'd rather have just gone all-in from 2020-2022 and gotten something for him in a trade if all else failed.