2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

[Kerb Hohl]

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the past few seasons we've targeted:

Torres
Boyer
Marinez
Nolin
Milone
Feliz
Chamberlain
Hughes
(and traded for Drake)


Of course we're linked to a guy like Hoooooooooover. I mean, it sucks, but it's predictable. (Pun intended)

None of those guys have broken the bank, though. Feliz was an expensive dart to throw but otherwise that's pretty much in line with the garbage any other team in the league adds to the bottom of their pen. In our case the past 2-3 years, it was the middle of our bullpen because we were rebuilding.

[Kerb Hohl]

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Harrison/Ecreg/Diplan/Supak for Duffy/Merrifield

No.

I think Merrifield is a huge regression candidate but I can see some value if he's gotten cheap in prospect capital. No thanks on Duffy.

You really want to take 2nd in the NL Central this year and next, don't you? Yeah, Duffy is under control for 4 but I'm not confident in his arm holding up.

[mlloyd10]

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Harrison/Ecreg/Diplan/Supak for Duffy/Merrifield

No.

I think Merrifield is a huge regression candidate but I can see some value if he's gotten cheap in prospect capital. No thanks on Duffy.

You really want to take 2nd in the NL Central this year and next, don't you? Yeah, Duffy is under control for 4 but I'm not confident in his arm holding up.

Merrifield had the same exact BA two years in a row. I see him as a .280 with 15 hr's and about 25-30 SB.

Decent stop gap 2b until Hiura is ready.

The website that i use show him as the 11th best 2b next year


You just really like holding onto prospects, i dont if its not the top prospects and it improves the team.

Duffy is the wild card, assuming his arm holds up, he is a #3 starter.

[Kerb Hohl]

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Harrison/Ecreg/Diplan/Supak for Duffy/Merrifield

No.

I think Merrifield is a huge regression candidate but I can see some value if he's gotten cheap in prospect capital. No thanks on Duffy.

You really want to take 2nd in the NL Central this year and next, don't you? Yeah, Duffy is under control for 4 but I'm not confident in his arm holding up.

Merrifield had the same exact BA two years in a row. I see him as a .280 with 15 hr's and about 25-30 SB.

Decent stop gap 2b until Hiura is ready.

The website that i use show him as the 11th best 2b next year


You just really like holding onto prospects, i dont if its not the top prospects and it improves the team.

Duffy is the wild card, assuming his arm holds up, he is a #3 starter.

Merrifield also had a consistent OBP of .325 which is nothing special and had a major power surge that does not match his minors HR totals or his rookie year total that I'm not sure is sustainable.

I do think that Merrifield may be one of those guys that defies the peripherals and does bring some value, I just don't want to pay full price in prospects the counting stats that you're referring to.

I don't want to improve the team to be just a little worse than the Cubs. I want to see if we really were that 85 win team last year. Take Nelson off and we're already back down to about an 80 win team anyways if you believed everything you saw from last year.

It would be incredibly depressing to trade a lot of guys that could be useful either on the team or in trades 2 years from now to push chips on to the table and still be way worse than the Cubs because last year was a mirage.

Again, this is why my preference is for some free agent signings if we do anything. If Shaw isn't this good, if Knebel isn't this good, if the free agent is a bust, if Thames is more of the middle of the season guy without the hot start he had, etc...we still have hope for the 2020 or so season to start to overtake the Cubs with the next wave.

[mlloyd10]

No.

I think Merrifield is a huge regression candidate but I can see some value if he's gotten cheap in prospect capital. No thanks on Duffy.

You really want to take 2nd in the NL Central this year and next, don't you? Yeah, Duffy is under control for 4 but I'm not confident in his arm holding up.

Merrifield had the same exact BA two years in a row. I see him as a .280 with 15 hr's and about 25-30 SB.

Decent stop gap 2b until Hiura is ready.

The website that i use show him as the 11th best 2b next year


You just really like holding onto prospects, i dont if its not the top prospects and it improves the team.

Duffy is the wild card, assuming his arm holds up, he is a #3 starter.

Merrifield also had a consistent OBP of .325 which is nothing special and had a major power surge that does not match his minors HR totals or his rookie year total that I'm not sure is sustainable.

I do think that Merrifield may be one of those guys that defies the peripherals and does bring some value, I just don't want to pay full price in prospects the counting stats that you're referring to.

I don't want to improve the team to be just a little worse than the Cubs. I want to see if we really were that 85 win team last year. Take Nelson off and we're already back down to about an 80 win team anyways if you believed everything you saw from last year.

It would be incredibly depressing to trade a lot of guys that could be useful either on the team or in trades 2 years from now to push chips on to the table and still be way worse than the Cubs because last year was a mirage.

Im not ready to say the Cubs are better than us

[Kerb Hohl]

Im not ready to say the Cubs are better than us

You're an optimistic man.

I'd love to find out this year that Santana, Knebel, Shaw, Brinson, Phillips, Davies, Anderson are all for real, Arcia improves, etc. and we've closed the gap on the Cubs and perhaps are even superior to them.

I'm not willing to bet on that before the year. That's dangerous. I'd make this trade at the All-Star break if what you say is true.

Remember that we finished 6 games behind them and one of our ace pitchers is essentially not suiting up this year.

This is incredibly unscientific because there is fan juicing going on in Vegas juicing up the big markets, but the Cubs are 10/1 to win the World Series this year and the Brewers are 30/1 right now.

[Iheartfootball]

Spoiler:

Apologies if this was posted already (didn't see it anywhere). Brewers in the mix for J.J. Hoover.

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2012 called. They want their who gives a **** back.

You talking Brewers or me posting it?

[mlloyd10]

Hearing whispers that Archer will happen

[trwi7]

Spoiler:

Apologies if this was posted already (didn't see it anywhere). Brewers in the mix for J.J. Hoover.

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2012 called. They want their who gives a **** back.

You talking Brewers or me posting it?

Brewers

[Turk Nowitzki]

Hearing whispers that Archer will happen

Like the voices in your own head type of whispers?

[LittleRooster]

Hearing whispers that Archer will happen

Like the voices in your own head type of whispers?

Seriously. Do tell


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[mlloyd10]

Hearing whispers that Archer will happen

Like the voices in your own head type of whispers?

Maybe

[coolhandluke121]

Im not ready to say the Cubs are better than us

You're an optimistic man.

That's one word for it. No offense mlloyd, but that's an incredible stretch. Their talent level is incredible, and their pitching is no more suspect than the Brewers', and probably less so.

[humanrefutation]

Hearing whispers that Archer will happen

From who?

[wichmae]

Saw a post on Twitter from Blue Jays reporter weve discussed Villar with them. Not sure I'd want to sell low on him at this point but he might just be the lowest IQ player Ive ever watched so I dunno.

[coolhandluke121]

Saw a post on Twitter from Blue Jays reporter weve discussed Villar with them. Not sure I'd want to sell low on him at this point but he might just be the lowest IQ player Ive ever watched so I dunno.

I'd gladly take a return a little less than halfway between what we could realistically expect if he has a bounce-back year and what he's probably worth now.

[mlloyd10]

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Now im getting a little pissed

[trwi7]

.9 WAR over his past 100+ innings. Worth getting pissed about imo.

[Thunder Muscle]

Merrifield had the same exact BA two years in a row. I see him as a .280 with 15 hr's and about 25-30 SB.

Decent stop gap 2b until Hiura is ready.

The website that i use show him as the 11th best 2b next year


You just really like holding onto prospects, i dont if its not the top prospects and it improves the team.

Duffy is the wild card, assuming his arm holds up, he is a #3 starter.

Merrifield also had a consistent OBP of .325 which is nothing special and had a major power surge that does not match his minors HR totals or his rookie year total that I'm not sure is sustainable.

I do think that Merrifield may be one of those guys that defies the peripherals and does bring some value, I just don't want to pay full price in prospects the counting stats that you're referring to.

I don't want to improve the team to be just a little worse than the Cubs. I want to see if we really were that 85 win team last year. Take Nelson off and we're already back down to about an 80 win team anyways if you believed everything you saw from last year.

It would be incredibly depressing to trade a lot of guys that could be useful either on the team or in trades 2 years from now to push chips on to the table and still be way worse than the Cubs because last year was a mirage.

Im not ready to say the Cubs are better than us

Whoa. There is a definition of a hot take.

[tski1972]

championship...

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