2022 Brewers Trades, Transactions, News - Cain Speaks Out

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[Kerb Hohl]

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Hmmm...basically Pina without the defensive prowess.

Probably more of an indictment on small samples through the season, but I recall him being atop the leaderboards for a while in the COVID season or early this year, but overall he's a slightly negative value hitter.

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I literally was just talking about Doug Jones a couple days ago with my uncles as we were randomly calling out random Brewers pitchers from the 90s.

[MickeyDavis]

Dead zone for MLB so here is a proposed trade by Anthony Castrovince of mlb.com

The trade that would break the internet

Phillies get: 3B Matt Chapman, LHP Josh Hader
Brewers get: 1B Matt Olson, LHP A.J. Puk
A’s get: 1B Keston Hiura, RHP Mick Abel (Phillies’ No. 1 prospect), SS Bryson Stott (Phillies’ No. 2 prospect), OF Ethan Wilson (Phillies’ No. 7 prospect), C Logan O’Hoppe (Phillies’ No. 11 prospect), OF Garrett Mitchell (Brewers’ No. 1 prospect)

If the A’s are, indeed, going to rebuild, why not rip off the Band-Aid and get it going with one gigantic, three-team trade that lights the Hot Stove aflame? Hey, if we’re going to talk about fake trades, we might as well be ambitious.

From the Phillies’ perspective, there is little choice but to go all-in on the 2022 team. The big contracts have been signed, and the fan base is understandably anxious amid the NL’s longest postseason drought. The Phils of recent vintage have been a talented-but-flawed club, and this trade addresses two major issues in bold fashion. Hader brings gravitas to Philly’s much-maligned bullpen, while Chapman both extends the lineup and greatly improves what was one of the worst defensive infields in MLB (Alec Bohm can shift to the outfield in this arrangement, unless the Phillies make a trade involving Rhys Hoskins that allows Bohm to slide to first base).

The Brewers alter their identity with this deal, as Hader would no longer be around to anchor their traditionally terrific bullpen. They’d have to find other ways to get late-inning outs (Puk has the potential to help), but their front office is certainly creative enough to do so. Hader and Olson both have two remaining seasons of contractual control and will probably command similar price tags in arbitration next season. For a small-market team, that money is better allocated to a dependable and much-needed bat (the Brewers hit just .233 as a team in 2021) than a bullpen arm that has accumulated a lot of mileage in recent years.

As for the A’s, they get the No. 51 prospect in baseball, per MLB Pipeline, in Mitchell, No. 64 in Abel and No. 97 in Stott, as well as two other prospects from the Phillies’ top 11. They also get the potential upside of the 25-year-old Hiura (a natural-born hitter whose swing seems to have been messed up by the pursuit of power), and perhaps the change of scenery does him good. Maybe it would take another lower-level prospect or three to get them to part with both Matts, but here you have the seeds of what would be a monumental swap.

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Seems a little below market for him. Wonder if brewers offered him anything. Does he bring back any compensatory picks?

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Seems a little below market for him. Wonder if brewers offered him anything. Does he bring back any compensatory picks?

Looks to me like the Brewers are doing a reset on spending. Not tendering Garcia was a big bummer.

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Seems a little below market for him. Wonder if brewers offered him anything. Does he bring back any compensatory picks?

Looks to me like the Brewers are doing a reset on spending. Not tendering Garcia was a big bummer.

To some degree I wouldn't say that yet.

But on the other hand, while I wouldn't celebrate Mark penny pinching a bit, I do understand one thing about it: We have an inflated payroll already from arbitration guys doing so well + the last year of Cain, Yelich's big $ kicking in, JBJ, etc. The entire division sucks or is rebuilding outside of the Cards...so I can understand the idea of just buying at the deadline instead of over this winter.

There's a lot of offseason left, though.

[humanrefutation]

Perhaps the Brewers just think the next CBA will depress contract values and/or include favorable elements that they'd like to see before signing anyone?

[MickeyDavis]

With a small margin for error it makes sense to wait to see what's in the new CBA.

[neiLz]

Seems a little below market for him. Wonder if brewers offered him anything. Does he bring back any compensatory picks?

Looks to me like the Brewers are doing a reset on spending. Not tendering Garcia was a big bummer.

To some degree I wouldn't say that yet.

But on the other hand, while I wouldn't celebrate Mark penny pinching a bit, I do understand one thing about it: We have an inflated payroll already from arbitration guys doing so well + the last year of Cain, Yelich's big $ kicking in, JBJ, etc. The entire division sucks or is rebuilding outside of the Cards...so I can understand the idea of just buying at the deadline instead of over this winter.

There's a lot of offseason left, though.

I'm totally in agreement. My main quib is basically Mark A going to the media every chance he gets to talk about his penny pinching. Every time he's in an interview hes always talking about budget this budget that. Hes done this for a decade. I don't want them to go the Cincy route and blow their load for a 3rd place team them reset every 2 years. The division does stink and the brewers always exceed expectations. I expect them to be in the
Playoffs... But it is getting a little frustrating losing every year and looking at this team only make these re-,shuffling of the deck.

On another note - what's the market for a yelich? Value at an all time low but would any team bite hoping he gets healthy? Brewers won despite yelich hitting 3rd and sucking the entire year.

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Looks to me like the Brewers are doing a reset on spending. Not tendering Garcia was a big bummer.

To some degree I wouldn't say that yet.

But on the other hand, while I wouldn't celebrate Mark penny pinching a bit, I do understand one thing about it: We have an inflated payroll already from arbitration guys doing so well + the last year of Cain, Yelich's big $ kicking in, JBJ, etc. The entire division sucks or is rebuilding outside of the Cards...so I can understand the idea of just buying at the deadline instead of over this winter.

There's a lot of offseason left, though.

I'm totally in agreement. My main quib is basically Mark A going to the media every chance he gets to talk about his penny pinching. Every time he's in an interview hes always talking about budget this budget that. Hes done this for a decade. I don't want them to go the Cincy route and blow their load for a 3rd place team them reset every 2 years. The division does stink and the brewers always exceed expectations. I expect them to be in the
Playoffs... But it is getting a little frustrating losing every year and looking at this team only make these re-,shuffling of the deck.

On another note - what's the market for a yelich? Value at an all time low but would any team bite hoping he gets healthy? Brewers won despite yelich hitting 3rd and sucking the entire year.

Anntansio has been great for Milwaukee by any way you want to measure it, but I do wish we had a Billionaire With a B owner and not one of the "poorest" in the sport.

On a side note, Mark A is gonna cash out like crazy when he sells. Bought the team for $223 million, and according to Forbes the team is now worth a BILLION more.

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I liked both prospects a bit. I guess we got the Avi replacement.

[MickeyDavis]

Good deal and salary dump

[Kerb Hohl]

Yeah…interesting. 2 years of control is nice. I think he has a great arm as well if I remember correctly but if Binelas pans out that’s a steep price to salary dump/get out of a broken player.

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I liked both prospects a bit. I guess we got the Avi replacement.

As did I


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