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Even if I was against overreacting and trading Devin because of this choke job, I would want to trade him for having that tantrum when they traded Hader. In fact, trade everyone who contributed to poisoning the locker room from that era. Making trades like that is precisely what keeps the Brewers competitive and relevant, but they weren't able to make some obvious moves this year because the narrative is controlled by short-sighted idiots.
This year proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the future belongs to the young players, and they should have traded Freddy and Devin in the off-season and Adames and Yelich at the deadline. Missed an incredibly opportunity to stockpile for the future.
This year proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the future belongs to the young players, and they should have traded Freddy and Devin in the off-season and Adames and Yelich at the deadline. Missed an incredibly opportunity to stockpile for the future.
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ACGB wrote:I just want to say I like Devin Williams and it's a shame he couldn't be the hero.
He wasn’t in a hero position.
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MickeyDavis wrote:When the Bucks or Packers are eliminated it sucks and I'm disappointed but I still have interest in the playoffs. Not so with baseball. Couldn't care less about any of it.
That said, I really hope it's the Tigers, Royals or Guardians. It would really suck if Yankees/Dodgers/Padres/Phillies/Mets win it all.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Nobody wins every year, especially a small market MLB team, but to keep making the playoffs and never catching a break or being rewarded with a postseason run just feels so undeserved for this fanbase.
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I commend all you baseball diehards for sticking with this team and inevitably getting excited for next season. I just can't fathom believing in these guys ever again after that. I guess since these playoff choke jobs keep getting more and more pathetic/historic, maybe "it can't get worse" mentality eventually applies? Idk man, I guess I'm glad the Brewers exist if not just to keep me humble as a Packers/Bucks fan, as I imagine this is what being a Vikings fan feels like. I'll watch for Chourio, and nothing else.
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Turk Nowitzki wrote:Nobody wins every year, especially a small market MLB team, but to keep making the playoffs and never catching a break or being rewarded with a postseason run just feels so undeserved for this fanbase.
Agreed. This year felt a little different. I went from cautiously optimistic in the offseason (after Counsell left) to slightly less hope during spring training and once the season started just felt like it was a unique team overachieving. However over time its like we’re pretty dang good and maybe this is the squad to make some noise, and **** we’re 2 outs from really doing just that. Thats what hurts.
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I was surprised how surprised I was that when Williams imploded. I know better but actually believed they were winning that game.Thunder Muscle wrote:Turk Nowitzki wrote:Nobody wins every year, especially a small market MLB team, but to keep making the playoffs and never catching a break or being rewarded with a postseason run just feels so undeserved for this fanbase.
Agreed. This year felt a little different. I went from cautiously optimistic in the offseason (after Counsell left) to slightly less hope during spring training and once the season started just felt like it was a unique team overachieving. However over time its like we’re pretty dang good and maybe this is the squad to make some noise, and **** we’re 2 outs from really doing just that. Thats what hurts.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I was surprised how surprised I was that when Williams imploded. I know better but actually believed they were winning that game.Thunder Muscle wrote:Turk Nowitzki wrote:Nobody wins every year, especially a small market MLB team, but to keep making the playoffs and never catching a break or being rewarded with a postseason run just feels so undeserved for this fanbase.
Agreed. This year felt a little different. I went from cautiously optimistic in the offseason (after Counsell left) to slightly less hope during spring training and once the season started just felt like it was a unique team overachieving. However over time its like we’re pretty dang good and maybe this is the squad to make some noise, and **** we’re 2 outs from really doing just that. Thats what hurts.
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I was very surprised. Didnt mean I thought we were beating the Phillies next round and making a WS run but when Bauers and Frelick of all people went back to back and Nick Mears is locking down a high leverage inning I thought "ok we got this one".
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Turk Nowitzki wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I was surprised how surprised I was that when Williams imploded. I know better but actually believed they were winning that game.Thunder Muscle wrote:
Agreed. This year felt a little different. I went from cautiously optimistic in the offseason (after Counsell left) to slightly less hope during spring training and once the season started just felt like it was a unique team overachieving. However over time its like we’re pretty dang good and maybe this is the squad to make some noise, and **** we’re 2 outs from really doing just that. Thats what hurts.
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I was very surprised. Didnt mean I thought we were beating the Phillies next round and making a WS run but when Bauers and Frelick of all people went back to back and Nick Mears is locking down a high leverage inning I thought "ok we got this one".
Even FP randomly coming in from the pen in the 8th and going 3 up, 3 down.
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Williams also hadn't given up a run in a month and a half and it was that weird one in STL when it looked like he had nothing but Murphy left him out there.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I was surprised how surprised I was that when Williams imploded. I know better but actually believed they were winning that game.Thunder Muscle wrote:Turk Nowitzki wrote:Nobody wins every year, especially a small market MLB team, but to keep making the playoffs and never catching a break or being rewarded with a postseason run just feels so undeserved for this fanbase.
Agreed. This year felt a little different. I went from cautiously optimistic in the offseason (after Counsell left) to slightly less hope during spring training and once the season started just felt like it was a unique team overachieving. However over time its like we’re pretty dang good and maybe this is the squad to make some noise, and **** we’re 2 outs from really doing just that. Thats what hurts.
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You can be forgiven for that. The annoying, distracting win probability thing ESPN throws up there was at something like 91%, I think.
In fact, I think we can all be forgiven for being fans of this luckless team and taking this gut punch. It was a big-time choke, but a Wild Card Round level choke, not WS level like a Buckner ground ball, so it will recede in memory over time.
I don't have the heart to write a limerick, but it would go something like good season, bright future, best young star in game, get some pitching, MLB playoff format sucks, it's football season.
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Adames/Contreras 4 for 23 did not help either. Left alot of runs on the table. Sanchez leadoff diuble in 2nd wasted. Contreras, who maybe shouldn’t have even played last night, had a great opportunity to make it 4-0 in 7th or 8th.
I love Adames, but think someone is going to regret overpaying him. But as PP said, teams like LA can absorb a 200M miss.
I love Adames, but think someone is going to regret overpaying him. But as PP said, teams like LA can absorb a 200M miss.
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Jomboy is super **** annoying, but I saw this on Reddit and thought it was interesting. Looks like Devin was tipping - at 3:58 you can see someone tell Pete "that's the changeup."
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MikeIsGood wrote:Jomboy is super **** annoying, but I saw this on Reddit and thought it was interesting. Looks like Devin was tipping - at 3:58 you can see someone tell Pete "that's the changeup."
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That makes a ton of sense because they were putting some unusally good swings on that pitch.
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And MLB Central said on 3-0 and 3-1 pitches that Devin throws a fastball 65-70% of the time. So the fact he was sitting change-up makes sense if was tipping pitches.
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Ron Swanson wrote:I commend all you baseball diehards for sticking with this team and inevitably getting excited for next season. I just can't fathom believing in these guys ever again after that. I guess since these playoff choke jobs keep getting more and more pathetic/historic, maybe "it can't get worse" mentality eventually applies? Idk man, I guess I'm glad the Brewers exist if not just to keep me humble as a Packers/Bucks fan, as I imagine this is what being a Vikings fan feels like. I'll watch for Chourio, and nothing else.
The Brewers hired Stearns in late September of 2015, when he was only 30 years old. His first full year (2016) was a mulligan of 73 wins.
Since then they've had seasons of:
86 wins
96
89
29 (Covid)
95
86
92
93
It is a ridiculously great record for a team with minimal payroll and one that has to replace 4-5 starting players in the lineup every season.
Stearns was a damn genius GM. Would be very concerned that the club can keep this up the farther they move away from his leaving for the Mets.
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Going post 82, from a series standpoint I probably rank this one 4th disappointing. 2011 or 2018, can go either way, are my biggest 2 because 96 win teams and had home field into NLCS. I probably go 2021 NLDS as 3 and this one 4. 2008 was just happy to be there and we were on fumes. Last year kinda knew didn’t have the offense and once Woody went done you knew we were doomed. 2020 I dont even count.
Hardest lost games probably put this one, Game 7 2018 NLCS, 2019 WC, or Game 4 2021 NLDS in a bag and can argue really any of them. Maybe NLDS one is a slight tier below since a win wouldn’t have advanced us.
Hardest lost games probably put this one, Game 7 2018 NLCS, 2019 WC, or Game 4 2021 NLDS in a bag and can argue really any of them. Maybe NLDS one is a slight tier below since a win wouldn’t have advanced us.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:I commend all you baseball diehards for sticking with this team and inevitably getting excited for next season. I just can't fathom believing in these guys ever again after that. I guess since these playoff choke jobs keep getting more and more pathetic/historic, maybe "it can't get worse" mentality eventually applies? Idk man, I guess I'm glad the Brewers exist if not just to keep me humble as a Packers/Bucks fan, as I imagine this is what being a Vikings fan feels like. I'll watch for Chourio, and nothing else.
The Brewers hired Stearns in late September of 2015, when he was only 30 years old. His first full year (2016) was a mulligan of 73 wins.
Since then they've had seasons of:
86 wins
96
89
29 (Covid)
95
86
92
93
It is a ridiculously great record for a team with minimal payroll and one that has to replace 4-5 starting players in the lineup every season.
Stearns was a damn genius GM. Would be very concerned that the club can keep this up the farther they move away from his leaving for the Mets.
Respectfully, you're off base with this narrative PP. Matt Arnold has done a fantastic job since getting the GM job in 2022 and organizationally I feel like we're actually stronger than ever. Not trying to dimnish what Stearns did for us at all but the honest truth is we haven't skipped a beat without him and haven't missed him at all.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:I commend all you baseball diehards for sticking with this team and inevitably getting excited for next season. I just can't fathom believing in these guys ever again after that. I guess since these playoff choke jobs keep getting more and more pathetic/historic, maybe "it can't get worse" mentality eventually applies? Idk man, I guess I'm glad the Brewers exist if not just to keep me humble as a Packers/Bucks fan, as I imagine this is what being a Vikings fan feels like. I'll watch for Chourio, and nothing else.
The Brewers hired Stearns in late September of 2015, when he was only 30 years old. His first full year (2016) was a mulligan of 73 wins.
Since then they've had seasons of:
86 wins
96
89
29 (Covid)
95
86
92
93
It is a ridiculously great record for a team with minimal payroll and one that has to replace 4-5 starting players in the lineup every season.
Stearns was a damn genius GM. Would be very concerned that the club can keep this up the farther they move away from his leaving for the Mets.
Matt Arnold has been in charge the last two seasons and has brought in players like William Contreras, Tobias Myers, Trevor Megill, Colin Rea, Blake Perkins, Jared Koenig, Joey Ortiz, Joel Payamps, Bryan Hudson, Joe Ross, Mark Canha, Carlos Santana, Rhys Hoskins, etc.
And that's just guys who have contributed to the Big league club, doesn't mention any minor leaguers who haven't made it up yet
I'm not worried at all about Matt Arnold
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Looking back at the other devastating playoff losses, and I'm honestly not sure how this isn't #1 by a landslide if we're talking about "chokes". We can debate which one of those teams was the best "on paper", but statistically this was the best Brewers team of our lifetimes going by run differential. We just never really had control of either series in 2011 and 2018, i.e. we weren't ever really in a position to choke those away.
2019 is really the only other contender and it was still the 8th inning in an away ball park (Nats still would have had another inning to win it). This was up 2-0 in the 9th, literally with 2-outs away from a series win. You heard it in Ueker's voice last night. For Devin to have one of the greatest meltdowns in playoff baseball history in front of a home crowd so sick, so desperate to finally get another series win....this one had a special sting to it. Just a giant "**** you" to the fanbase.
2019 is really the only other contender and it was still the 8th inning in an away ball park (Nats still would have had another inning to win it). This was up 2-0 in the 9th, literally with 2-outs away from a series win. You heard it in Ueker's voice last night. For Devin to have one of the greatest meltdowns in playoff baseball history in front of a home crowd so sick, so desperate to finally get another series win....this one had a special sting to it. Just a giant "**** you" to the fanbase.









