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2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#641 » by Kerb Hohl » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:30 pm

Tfence92 wrote:
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Tfence92 wrote:How do we still have Wren?
How has no one given him a shot lol.


Because he’s a local media/message board inflated player with an inflated Colorado Springs batting average. Might be something but if it was likely, someone else would’ve scooped him up.


Be fair, he's hit pretty well everywhere.

But yes, I agree if he was something, someone would have grabbed him already.


His first 2 years of only 50 games each in A ball were good, but since then, a ~.715 OPS is not something where you burst into the majors.

If you’re a solid SB guy but a singles/slap hitter, you need either some power or HOF speed to be brought up to the majors. Most of those guys go from hitting .315 with minimal walks and power in the minors to .265 with no walks and power in the majors.

Wren does draw a lot of walks/high OBP but the teams/scouts must not think that that can stick in the majors.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#642 » by Gianstoppable » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:44 pm

Just throw a bunch of money at Darvish. Sign Lo Cain to a 4 year deal. Sign Oh for the pen. Trade Domingo. Trade away at least one of the other guys from the rotation, either Davies or Anderson so you can sell high. Resign Walker if he takes a 2 year deal.


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Chacin

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Shaw
Walker
Thames/Aguilar
Brinson
Arcia
Pina/Vogt




Wont happen, I am just bored. Could be a damn good team though
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#643 » by Tfence92 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:48 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
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Because he’s a local media/message board inflated player with an inflated Colorado Springs batting average. Might be something but if it was likely, someone else would’ve scooped him up.


Be fair, he's hit pretty well everywhere.

But yes, I agree if he was something, someone would have grabbed him already.


His first 2 years of only 50 games each in A ball were good, but since then, a ~.715 OPS is not something where you burst into the majors.

If you’re a solid SB guy but a singles/slap hitter, you need either some power or HOF speed to be brought up to the majors. Most of those guys go from hitting .315 with minimal walks and power in the minors to .265 with no walks and power in the majors.

Wren does draw a lot of walks/high OBP but the teams/scouts must not think that that can stick in the majors.


His OPS in AAA the last two years has been nearly .800.

As we've both said, if someone thought he could hit he'd have gotten a chance, but he plays good defense, seems to get on base and can steal bases. He definitely doesn't have HoF speed or bat, but he seems solid enough to get a shot. We have trotted out the likes of Colin Walsh and Andy Wilkins in recent years, I'd just like to give him a shot.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#644 » by Kerb Hohl » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:52 pm

Tfence92 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Be fair, he's hit pretty well everywhere.

But yes, I agree if he was something, someone would have grabbed him already.


His first 2 years of only 50 games each in A ball were good, but since then, a ~.715 OPS is not something where you burst into the majors.

If you’re a solid SB guy but a singles/slap hitter, you need either some power or HOF speed to be brought up to the majors. Most of those guys go from hitting .315 with minimal walks and power in the minors to .265 with no walks and power in the majors.

Wren does draw a lot of walks/high OBP but the teams/scouts must not think that that can stick in the majors.


His OPS in AAA the last two years has been nearly .800.

As we've both said, if someone thought he could hit he'd have gotten a chance, but he plays good defense, seems to get on base and can steal bases. He definitely doesn't have HoF speed or bat, but he seems solid enough to get a shot. We have trotted out the likes of Colin Walsh and Andy Wilkins in recent years, I'd just like to give him a shot.


Yes, but .800 in Colorado Springs.
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Post#645 » by Tfence92 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:02 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
His first 2 years of only 50 games each in A ball were good, but since then, a ~.715 OPS is not something where you burst into the majors.

If you’re a solid SB guy but a singles/slap hitter, you need either some power or HOF speed to be brought up to the majors. Most of those guys go from hitting .315 with minimal walks and power in the minors to .265 with no walks and power in the majors.

Wren does draw a lot of walks/high OBP but the teams/scouts must not think that that can stick in the majors.


His OPS in AAA the last two years has been nearly .800.

As we've both said, if someone thought he could hit he'd have gotten a chance, but he plays good defense, seems to get on base and can steal bases. He definitely doesn't have HoF speed or bat, but he seems solid enough to get a shot. We have trotted out the likes of Colin Walsh and Andy Wilkins in recent years, I'd just like to give him a shot.


Yes, but .800 in Colorado Springs.


Didn't think about that, but doesn't CSP just really help a ton for power more than overall average? As in not helping him as much.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#646 » by trwi7 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:10 pm

Tfence92 wrote:
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Tfence92 wrote:
His OPS in AAA the last two years has been nearly .800.

As we've both said, if someone thought he could hit he'd have gotten a chance, but he plays good defense, seems to get on base and can steal bases. He definitely doesn't have HoF speed or bat, but he seems solid enough to get a shot. We have trotted out the likes of Colin Walsh and Andy Wilkins in recent years, I'd just like to give him a shot.


Yes, but .800 in Colorado Springs.


Didn't think about that, but doesn't CSP just really help a ton for power more than overall average? As in not helping him as much.


No. The fences in Colorado are always further back to try to mitigate balls just flying out every 4th hitter so there's a ton of ground to cover down the lines and especially in the gaps.

Colorado Springs is 350 down the lines, 385 in the gaps and 410 to center. Most are in the 320-335 range down the lines and in the 360-375 range in the gaps and 400ish to center. The only park that isn't at a high elevation that is even close to that in the PCL is Nashville's new stadium that's 386 to left center, 388 to right center and 403 to center but even the ground to cover there isn't that bad when you consider the left field line is only 330 and the right field line is only 310.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#647 » by Kerb Hohl » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:31 pm

Yeah, most high elevation fields are huge for batting average because their fences are way back.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#648 » by bizarro » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:04 am

trwi7 wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
Yes, but .800 in Colorado Springs.


Didn't think about that, but doesn't CSP just really help a ton for power more than overall average? As in not helping him as much.


No. The fences in Colorado are always further back to try to mitigate balls just flying out every 4th hitter so there's a ton of ground to cover down the lines and especially in the gaps.

Colorado Springs is 350 down the lines, 385 in the gaps and 410 to center. Most are in the 320-335 range down the lines and in the 360-375 range in the gaps and 400ish to center. The only park that isn't at a high elevation that is even close to that in the PCL is Nashville's new stadium that's 386 to left center, 388 to right center and 403 to center but even the ground to cover there isn't that bad when you consider the left field line is only 330 and the right field line is only 310.


Twirlzy, I just want to say: I really do appreciate your depth of knowledge in the baseball game. I don't agree with you consistently when we discuss the Brewers but, man, I appreciate how much you know about the game. Thanks for posting here in addition to Brewer Fan.

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#649 » by Tfence92 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:29 am

bizarro wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Didn't think about that, but doesn't CSP just really help a ton for power more than overall average? As in not helping him as much.


No. The fences in Colorado are always further back to try to mitigate balls just flying out every 4th hitter so there's a ton of ground to cover down the lines and especially in the gaps.

Colorado Springs is 350 down the lines, 385 in the gaps and 410 to center. Most are in the 320-335 range down the lines and in the 360-375 range in the gaps and 400ish to center. The only park that isn't at a high elevation that is even close to that in the PCL is Nashville's new stadium that's 386 to left center, 388 to right center and 403 to center but even the ground to cover there isn't that bad when you consider the left field line is only 330 and the right field line is only 310.


Twirlzy, I just want to say: I really do appreciate your depth of knowledge in the baseball game. I don't agree with you consistently when we discuss the Brewers but, man, I appreciate how much you know about the game. Thanks for posting here in addition to Brewer Fan.

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#650 » by Iheartfootball » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:17 am

Tfence92 wrote:
bizarro wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
No. The fences in Colorado are always further back to try to mitigate balls just flying out every 4th hitter so there's a ton of ground to cover down the lines and especially in the gaps.

Colorado Springs is 350 down the lines, 385 in the gaps and 410 to center. Most are in the 320-335 range down the lines and in the 360-375 range in the gaps and 400ish to center. The only park that isn't at a high elevation that is even close to that in the PCL is Nashville's new stadium that's 386 to left center, 388 to right center and 403 to center but even the ground to cover there isn't that bad when you consider the left field line is only 330 and the right field line is only 310.


Twirlzy, I just want to say: I really do appreciate your depth of knowledge in the baseball game. I don't agree with you consistently when we discuss the Brewers but, man, I appreciate how much you know about the game. Thanks for posting here in addition to Brewer Fan.

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Nelson's Recovery Ahead of Schedule, pg 31 

Post#651 » by Tfence92 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:45 am

Iheartfootball wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
bizarro wrote:
Twirlzy, I just want to say: I really do appreciate your depth of knowledge in the baseball game. I don't agree with you consistently when we discuss the Brewers but, man, I appreciate how much you know about the game. Thanks for posting here in addition to Brewer Fan.

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Post#652 » by tski1972 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:33 pm

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Post#653 » by wichmae » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:21 pm

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Ill guess Keon to SF for Garret Cave and Alex Canario
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Post#654 » by LittleRooster » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:22 pm

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Ill guess Keon to SF for Garret Cave and Alex Canario


He said it’s not with SF


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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Crasnick: Brewers close to trade, pg 33. 

Post#655 » by mlloyd10 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:20 am

Dude with a good track record on Brewerfan.net says the trade is significant
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Crasnick: Brewers close to trade, pg 33. 

Post#656 » by Tfence92 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:21 am

Braun please lol
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Post#657 » by Tfence92 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:23 am

mlloyd10 wrote:Dude with a good track record on Brewerfan.net says the trade is significant


With all this buildup, if it's a minor deal I'm gonna be upset.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Crasnick: Brewers close to trade, pg 33. 

Post#658 » by Gianstoppable » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:31 am

There's a rumor where we take on Ellsbury for prospects. That makes no sense, his contract is huge and we have tons of outfielders. I'm guessing we're moving Domingo
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Crasnick: Brewers close to trade, pg 33. 

Post#659 » by Gianstoppable » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:32 am

Tfence92 wrote:Braun please lol


Didn't Braun say he would only go to LAD? Don't see that happening unfortunately
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Crasnick: Brewers close to trade, pg 33. 

Post#660 » by LittleRooster » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:52 am

Now they’re in on Darvish. Wtf is going on. I don’t like it


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