2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

WeekapaugGroove · Post #921 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:40 pm

This I find intersting. Was currious to see if they were going to say CF right away.

Post #922 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:46 pm

wichmae wrote:I know Monte had a TON of hype from his AFL performance but we are talking about two players in Brinson and Monte who are always hurt with big questions about contact. Diaz regressed last season quite a bit as well. Yamamoto was an under the radar guy who pitches better than his stuff would suggest. It is a lot to give up in terms of prospect values but again like Ive maintained before what your hope for Brinson and Harrison get to is what Yelich is at. It is a nice package for Miami and I could see why they do this deal. Im hoping Santana is now moved for pitching or prospects and we dont try and play Yelich in center.

That's where I'm at. I'll feel a lot better if Santana is moved soon.

tski1972 · Post #923 » by **tski1972** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:46 pm

Santana and/or Broxton have to be getting moved.

bizarro · Post #924 » by **bizarro** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:47 pm

Wow. This trade hit me like a fly swatter to the face. It stings. In a couple days, I'll try to see the lesson of the fly swatter. I really really liked Yamamoto last season - he really came into his own. Honestly, when it's all said and done the best players in this deal may be Harrison and Yamamoto. Man...this deal just feels like way too much way too soon.

Gianstoppable · Post #925 » by **Gianstoppable** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:47 pm

Bet we trade Santana and sign Cain

Kerb Hohl · Post #926 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:47 pm

Broxton is staying IMO. Gotta have a platoon partner with Phillips and a good defensive 4th OF.

BUCKnation · Post #927 » by **BUCKnation** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:48 pm

wichmae wrote:I know Monte had a TON of hype from his AFL performance but we are talking about two players in Brinson and Monte who are always hurt with big questions about contact. Diaz regressed last season quite a bit as well. Yamamoto was an under the radar guy who pitches better than his stuff would suggest. It is a lot to give up in terms of prospect values but again like Ive maintained before what your hope for Brinson and Harrison get to is what Yelich is at. It is a nice package for Miami and I could see why they do this deal. Im hoping Santana is now moved for pitching or prospects and we dont try and play Yelich in center.

Yeah, I think this is a pretty fair deal. Brinson's peak might be what Yelich does right now and that's a maybe. I'm not sure Diaz's bat would ever be good enough to really make it, especially with Hiura/Dubon and a young Arcia in the system. The other two are lotto picks, although Harrison has been figuring it out recently.

bizarro · Post #928 » by **bizarro** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:49 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
wichmae wrote:I know Monte had a TON of hype from his AFL performance but we are talking about two players in Brinson and Monte who are always hurt with big questions about contact. Diaz regressed last season quite a bit as well. Yamamoto was an under the radar guy who pitches better than his stuff would suggest. It is a lot to give up in terms of prospect values but again like Ive maintained before what your hope for Brinson and Harrison get to is what Yelich is at. It is a nice package for Miami and I could see why they do this deal. Im hoping Santana is now moved for pitching or prospects and we dont try and play Yelich in center.

That's where I'm at. I'll feel a lot better if Santana is moved soon.

Me too. Exactly where I'm at. Braun and Yelich now play to their strengths in the corner. Santana is traded to recoup some organizational upside and depth. Platoon Broxton/Phillips in Center with Phillips being a swing guy.

Gianstoppable · Post #929 » by **Gianstoppable** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:51 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:Broxton is staying IMO. Gotta have a platoon partner with Phillips and a good defensive 4th OF.

Broxton is 5th OF right now

Ill-yasova · Post #930 » by **Ill-yasova** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:54 pm

At least Yelich was way better slugging on the road than he was in Miami.

ak7 · Post #931 » by **ak7** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:55 pm

Some of you guys are way attached to less than major impactful specs. Yikes. Brinson has major issues to work through at the ML level before he can even be in a remote region of the same conversation as Yelich.

You make this trade 10/10 times.

WiscSports1 · Post #932 » by **WiscSports1** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:55 pm

I'm not extremely excited, but I don't hate the deal. The biggest positive about this deal is that we didn't give up any high level pitching. That's extremely hard to do when acquiring a talent like Yelich.

I also think Brinson has holes in his swing so I'm not quite seeing the elite potential, but I could easily be wrong.

Kerb Hohl · Post #933 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:57 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:Broxton is staying IMO. Gotta have a platoon partner with Phillips and a good defensive 4th OF.

Broxton is 5th OF right now

Well yeah but Santana is gone.

wichmae · Post #934 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:59 pm

ak7 wrote:Some of you guys are way attached to less than major impactful specs. Yikes. Brinson has major issues to work through at the ML level before he can even be in a remote region of the same conversation as Yelich.

You make this trade 10/10 times.

Yeah I dont know 10/10 times. Like Ive posted before adnasuem it makes some sense but in no way was this a slam dunk. They gave up a pretty good packageto Miami.

Bernman · Post #935 » by **Bernman** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:00 am

I have so many questions about this.

How do you not get a proven star for that kind of package? That's a haul for the Marlins.

If they valued Brinson so much to turn down 3 extra prospects from Texas, why trade him a year later in a 4 prospects for 1 player package a year later?

Why concede Diaz specifically when he's a middle infielder and they may need help there going forward and he was a bright prospect?

The big need for this team is a starting pitcher/ace. Should have been able to snare that. Instead they go outfielder, which they had a surplus of, and traded someone with as high of upside or higher away. Sure they didn't mean Broxton?

The guy needed to be majorly held back by that ballpark (didn't stop Stanton) and a perennial all-star to justify this. FWIW, he was significantly better on the road than home. He had an .852 OPS and .938 OPS on the road the last two seasons. It's one season's worth over 2 of high .800. I guess that's what they're looking at. It's a leap of faith.

I realize Stearns has been pretty money so far, but every decision should be evaluated individually. This one is curious, and confirms concern about the Lucroy/Jeffress return at the time.

trwi7 · Post #936 » by **trwi7** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:00 am

ak7 wrote:Some of you guys are way attached to less than major impactful specs. Yikes. Brinson has major issues to work through at the ML level before he can even be in a remote region of the same conversation as Yelich.

You make this trade 10/10 times.

I for one welcome our 83 win overlord.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #937 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:03 am

tski1972 wrote:Santana and/or Broxton have to be getting moved.

Probably. But what if they decide to move braun to 1st and roll yelich broxton/phillips santana in the OF. Then you maybe move thames but **** they could even keep him and flip agulair. It would be a little crowded but with injuries, off days, and dh there might be enough abs for everyone.

Post #938 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:06 am

Read on Twitter

Iheartfootball · Post #939 » by **Iheartfootball** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:08 am

I really liked Stearns. Ugh. I don't like this.

I really hope this wasn't Attanasio meddling. If it is then this will just end up a repeat of the first go round with Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, etc. 1st round playoffs. Exit stage left.

*edit* What happened to staying the course? Come on guys. Ugh. I hope I'm wrong. I really do.

ak7 · Post #940 » by **ak7** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:10 am

trwi7 wrote:
ak7 wrote:Some of you guys are way attached to less than major impactful specs. Yikes. Brinson has major issues to work through at the ML level before he can even be in a remote region of the same conversation as Yelich.

You make this trade 10/10 times.

I for one welcome our 83 win overlord.

Except all 3 of those guys have major holes with their bat and the one who projects to be the most impactful still isn't as good as Yelich is at his absolute ceiling. Do you think you just trip over all-star players with a ton of team control and all of a sudden they are yours? Yelich will be better at Miller Park as well.

Additionally, one more year form Brinson like this past one and his value plummets. Why risk it if he's not a sure thing? He's played like he's anything but.