Gomez NOT traded to Mets for Wheeler, Flores

Kerb Hohl · Post #1 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:09 am

I know that we are discussing this in the thread, but let's make a topic so we can bring this back and rip on posters.

Only downside is that it seems Mark/Doug were looking for slightly more advanced players in Wheeler (I know he can't pitch for awhile) and Flores. I'm not going to complain, though.

EDIT: Nope.

kid idioteque · Post #2 » by **kid idioteque** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:13 am

Gomez isn't at peak value but I'm very underwhelmed by the return. A shortstop with a .282 OBP and a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery?

Aaron It Out · Post #3 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:15 am

Pretty happy with this deal.

Kerb Hohl · Post #4 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:17 am

kid idioteque wrote:Gomez isn't at peak value but I'm very underwhelmed by the return. A shortstop with a .282 OBP and a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery?

Flores hit pretty well in the minors. I do think he's going to be a .320 OBP guy with 15-20 HR and I wish that would play at SS and not 3B, but he's a decent piece to add.

Sky Bucks · Post #5 » by **Sky Bucks** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:23 am

If Wheeler reaches his potential, it's an easy win.

kid idioteque · Post #6 » by **kid idioteque** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:23 am

Kerb Hohl wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:Gomez isn't at peak value but I'm very underwhelmed by the return. A shortstop with a .282 OBP and a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery?

Flores hit pretty well in the minors. I do think he's going to be a .320 OBP guy with 15-20 HR and I wish that would play at SS and not 3B, but he's a decent piece to add.

I'm glad they didn't hang on to Gomez, but this feels like a very light haul for a perennial All-Star.

Dcebucks11 · Post #7 » by **Dcebucks11** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:29 am

kid idioteque wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:Gomez isn't at peak value but I'm very underwhelmed by the return. A shortstop with a .282 OBP and a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery?

Flores hit pretty well in the minors. I do think he's going to be a .320 OBP guy with 15-20 HR and I wish that would play at SS and not 3B, but he's a decent piece to add.

I'm glad they didn't hang on to Gomez, but this feels like a very light haul for a perennial All-Star.

I think you and a lot of other Brewers fans overestimated Gomez's value.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #8 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:32 am

One thing I don't like is that Wheeler is only under control until 2019. If he manages to be really good you'd like to have him around for longer than that.

Ill-yasova · Post #9 » by **Ill-yasova** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:33 am

kid idioteque wrote:Gomez isn't at peak value but I'm very underwhelmed by the return. A shortstop with a .282 OBP and a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery?

This isn't "a pitcher" coming off Tommy John, this is Zach ******* WHEELER! The guy throws mid to high 90's and he was the number 8 prospect in the nation two years ago.He has an opponent average of .237 in the majors and a 3.50 ERA in his first two seasons.

:noway:

wichmae · Post #10 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:35 am

If Wheeler was healthy no way NY does him for Gomez straight up. Flores hit well through the minors and has upside. Now if Gomez was still under control past next season I dont do the trade. I also believe there is no way this level of deal would be on the table next season.

LittleRooster · Post #11 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:38 am

wichmae wrote:If Wheeler was healthy no way NY does him for Gomez straight up. Flores hit well through the minors and has upside. Now if Gomez was still under control past next season I dont do the trade. I also believe there is no way this level of deal would be on the table next season.

This

nmeurett · Post #12 » by **nmeurett** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:39 am

So is this our rotation next year:

1 Willy Peralta
2 Tyler Jungmann
3 Zach Wheeler
4 Mike Fiers
5 Jimmey Nelson

Kerb Hohl · Post #13 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:39 am

Gomez is not going to have very good numbers in Citi Field.

BUCKnation · Post #14 » by **BUCKnation** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:41 am

Wheeler is a nice add, a bit of an unknown with the injury, but he has great potential. Is he more of a fly ball out or ground ball out guy though?

Don't care for Flores, but his minor's stats are decent. Someone may have more info, but he seems like a future utility guy.

tski1972 · Post #15 » by **tski1972** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:43 am

nmeurett wrote:So is this our rotation next year:

1 Willy Peralta
2 Tyler Jungmann
3 Zach Wheeler
4 Mike Fiers
5 Jimmey Nelson

still have Garza, and Wheeler won't pitch until mid summer at the earliest.

wichmae · Post #16 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:45 am

Yea. We still have one too many SP's at this point.

Post #17 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:45 am

If Wheeler is healthy, it's a win. That being said, I loved GOGO. He was so much fun to watch.

Ill-yasova · Post #18 » by **Ill-yasova** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:47 am

wichmae wrote:Yea. We still have one too many SP's at this point.

Hate it when that happens

Turk Nowitzki · Post #19 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:48 am

WTF, they just showed Flores crying on the field over being traded, yet he's still in the game.

LittleRooster · Post #20 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:48 am

Flores is still in the game for some reason and he's literally crying