Brewers Acquire LHP Tyler Webb

Kerb Hohl · Post #1 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:22 pm

From Yankees.

Post #2 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:26 pm

He literally made his MLB debut like three weeks ago. Should be an effective LOOGY in the short term. Hopefully we didn't give up much.

wichmae · Post #3 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:32 pm

IM guessing this is probably a PTBNL or cash deal. Like HR said I hope it isnt much.

Kerb Hohl · Post #4 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:35 pm

wichmae wrote:IM guessing this is probably a PTBNL or cash deal. Like HR said I hope it isnt much.

What if it was Cooper?

wichmae · Post #5 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:36 pm

It is Garret Cooper.

Kerb Hohl · Post #6 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:37 pm

It is Cooper.

wichmae · Post #7 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:37 pm

Cooper is a Lyle Overbay type player who has crushed AAA. He's 26 and a first base only guy.

wichmae · Post #8 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:39 pm

LOL Yankees twitter. Now all of a sudden Cooper is an All Star find.

Profound23 · Post #9 » by **Profound23** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:41 pm

I really hope we are careful not to mess up out farm system. I still don't think we are ready.

Kerb Hohl · Post #10 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:43 pm

Profound23 wrote:I really hope we are careful not to mess up out farm system. I still don't think we are ready.

This is a trade of one team's surplus to fill another team's weakness of equal role players that are dominating AAA.

Both guys are probably just role players/depth in the MLB but there's always the chance it's the Broxton for Rogers trade where one guy clearly thrives.

wichmae · Post #11 » by **wichmae** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:45 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
Profound23 wrote:I really hope we are careful not to mess up out farm system. I still don't think we are ready.

This is a trade of one team's surplus to fill another team's weakness of equal role players that are dominating AAA.

Both guys are probably just role players/depth in the MLB but there's always the chance it's the Broxton for Rogers trade where one guy clearly thrives.

That was an amazing trade. Dont forget we got Supak too.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #12 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:47 pm

As I just posted in the trade thread. Seems like a reasonable deal for both sides.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #13 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:56 pm

I don't really know much about Cooper as a prospect and how much of this is a Colorado Springs aided fluke. Those are some sick AAA numbers no matter what though.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #14 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:58 pm

Profound23 wrote:I really hope we are careful not to mess up out farm system. I still don't think we are ready.

Swaping 26 year old AAA guys isn't really doing anything to the farm system.

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mlloyd10 · Post #15 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:59 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:I don't really know much about Cooper as a prospect and how much of this is a Colorado Springs aided fluke. Those are some sick AAA numbers no matter what though.

27 total HR's before this season in just under 1300 abs

WeekapaugGroove · Post #16 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:09 pm

Not that this probably factored into this decision but this also lets them use Bandy and Susac at 1st in AAA. Giving them consistent atbats and possibly some positional flexibility if they make it back to the bigs. Cordell probably gets some time there too. He might be a super utility guy for them next year.

Kerb Hohl · Post #17 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:10 pm

Yeah, the RH Overbay comparison seems pretty apt. I am generally skeptical of most Colorado Springs explosions, but looking at it wondered if maybe Cooper just hit his stride...but then you realize how many late 20s guys put up video game numbers in the PCL so nah.

The only way I could see Cooper being a very good player is if he was one of those changed launch angle guys (I have no clue if he is or not) and finally hit his stride with the juiced ball this year.

trwi7 · Post #18 » by **trwi7** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:26 pm

wichmae wrote:LOL Yankees twitter. Now all of a sudden Cooper is an All Star find.

Sounds like a lot of posters on bf.net. Like they completely ignored that he was 26 and a mediocre at best offensive player until he got to Colorado Springs.

El Duderino · Post #19 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:26 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:I don't really know much about Cooper as a prospect and how much of this is a Colorado Springs aided fluke. Those are some sick AAA numbers no matter what though.

Here are his splits

Colorado Springs/Home--.442BA/.503OBP/.829SLG/1.333OPS

Road-- .300BA/.359OBP/.500SLG/.859OPS

He was still pretty good in road games. but in Colorado Springs Cooper put up video game numbers. That doesn't mean he won't be a solid MLB hitter, but that park inflates every hitter.

The nice thing about Webb is if he pans out in the majors, the Brewers control his rights for six years. Most relievers on the market will be rentals or have far fewer controllable years. In AAA this year Webb had an insane 47/3 K/BB ratio. Obviously he won't do that vs big league hitters, but it's impressive.

Kerb Hohl · Post #20 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:30 pm

El Duderino wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:I don't really know much about Cooper as a prospect and how much of this is a Colorado Springs aided fluke. Those are some sick AAA numbers no matter what though.

Here are his splits

Colorado Springs/Home--.442BA/.503OBP/.829SLG/1.333OPS

Road-- .300BA/.359OBP/.500SLG/.859OPS

He was still pretty good in road games. but in Colorado Springs Cooper put up video game numbers. That doesn't mean he won't be a solid MLB hitter, but that park inflates every hitter.

The nice thing about Webb is if he pans out in the majors, the Brewers control his rights for six years. Most relievers on the market will be rentals or have far fewer controllable years. In AAA this year Webb had an insane 47/3 K/BB ratio. Obviously he won't do that vs big league hitters, but it's impressive.

Yeah and basically all of the PCL heavily favors hitters so even road splits have to be taken with a grain of salt.