Brewers vs Rays: Brandon Woodruff debut

Gianstoppable · Post #121 » by **Gianstoppable** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:06 pm

sidney lanier wrote:Thigh high, middle in. Even with that juicy meatball to end it, an outstanding series by the pitching staff.

2 runs over 27 innings is unbelievable, still took 2 out of 3. Keep winning two out of three and were good

trwi7 · Post #122 » by **trwi7** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:07 pm

It's not often you give up two runs in a series and not sweep it.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #123 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:15 pm

Amazingly pathetic performance from the offense with the DH in play. I don't know whether to be upset or ecstatic with 2 of 3 in this series.

BUCKnation · Post #124 » by **BUCKnation** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:18 pm

Still can't believe he was pitching Barnes. Hughes was warming up prior and he had 25 pitches last game and squeaked out a clean inning.

BUCKnation · Post #125 » by **BUCKnation** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:19 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:Amazingly pathetic performance from the offense with the DH in play. I don't know whether to be upset or ecstatic with 2 of 3 in this series.

2nd worst offense since the break after being 6th best pre asg

Post #126 » by **Jollay** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 8:23 pm

Rays announcers were shocked Pina didn't bunt in the 8th. Love Counsell's put faith in players, aggressive style, but I agree. Obviously not much faith in Broxton coming up next but with runs at that much of a premium have to bunt him and take 2nd and 3rd, one out.

blazza18 · Post #127 » by **blazza18** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:07 pm

I have no idea what happened but never bunt.

We gotta stop using Barnes in any situation that already isn't a blowout.

BUCKnation · Post #128 » by **BUCKnation** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:10 pm

blazza18 wrote:I have no idea what happened but never bunt.

We gotta stop using Barnes in any situation that already isn't a blowout.

1st and 2nd nobody out with Pina, in the top of 9th of a tie game. I think a bunt would've been smart since you just need the 1 run.

Gianstoppable · Post #129 » by **Gianstoppable** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:19 pm

Yeah probably should have bunted but if he gets a double then everyone forgets about it. He could have bunted into a double play and then people would question that too. It's baseball, gotta love it

Gianstoppable · Post #130 » by **Gianstoppable** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:22 pm

I had more faith in Keon bunting with 2 outs honestly lol always love a good squeeze

Iheartfootball · Post #131 » by **Iheartfootball** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:44 pm

Barnes had no business being out there.

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Iheartfootball · Post #132 » by **Iheartfootball** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:45 pm

sidney lanier wrote:Thigh high, middle in. Even with that juicy meatball to end it, an outstanding series by the pitching staff.

I mean they held that offense to 2 runs all series right? Pretty amazing collective pitching effort.

El Duderino · Post #133 » by **El Duderino** » Sun Aug 6, 2017 11:47 pm

BUCKnation wrote:
blazza18 wrote:I have no idea what happened but never bunt.

We gotta stop using Barnes in any situation that already isn't a blowout.

1st and 2nd nobody out with Pina, in the top of 9th of a tie game. I think a bunt would've been smart since you just need the 1 run.

1. It's maybe 50/50 Pina gets a bunt down that advances the runners

2. Even if he advances the runners, Broxton was up next and he's a K machine.

Pina hit the ball hard, jut bad luck that the SS had moved up the middle right before the pitch to hold the runner at 2nd base or that goes through for a single.

Using Barnes is what annoyed me, that dude has been struggling for awhile.

Man, as good as this pitching staff has been for since the ASB, the record should be better, but the offense has been straight garbage.

BUCKnation · Post #134 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:28 am

Not using Hader against the lefty and using Barnes who threw 25 yesterday and probably around 100 in the past week is just inexcusable

LittleRooster · Post #135 » by **LittleRooster** » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:31 am

I liked him not bunting. My issue was with Barnes coming in. We all saw that coming

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coolhandluke121 · Post #136 » by **coolhandluke121** » Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:18 pm

El Duderino wrote:
1. It's maybe 50/50 Pina gets a bunt down that advances the runners

2. Even if he advances the runners, Broxton was up next and he's a K machine.

Pina hit the ball hard, jut bad luck that the SS had moved up the middle right before the pitch to hold the runner at 2nd base or that goes through for a single.

Using Barnes is what annoyed me, that dude has been struggling for awhile.

Man, as good as this pitching staff has been for since the ASB, the record should be better, but the offense has been straight garbage.

All of this. Bunting is not a good gamble in most situations, and Barnes is burned to a crisp right now.

Tfence92 · Post #137 » by **Tfence92** » Mon Aug 7, 2017 8:03 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:Barnes lol. Knebel didnt pitch last night but hey, "It wasnt a save situation"

No one is going to bring in the closer there.
Everyone would wait til they get a lead and bring him in to get the save.

You can argue that it's not the right play, but it's baseball.

wichmae · Post #138 » by **wichmae** » Mon Aug 7, 2017 8:35 pm

Yea I get not bringing in Knebel but this Barnes high leverage stuff has to stop. Its been now over two months of the season he's been awful. Theres better options in Hader, Swarzak (dont know if he was available), or Hughes. Jeffress has been awful all year but has better number over the last two months than Barnes does.

Gianstoppable · Post #139 » by **Gianstoppable** » Tue Aug 8, 2017 12:17 pm

Tfence92 wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:Barnes lol. Knebel didnt pitch last night but hey, "It wasnt a save situation"

No one is going to bring in the closer there.
Everyone would wait til they get a lead and bring him in to get the save.

You can argue that it's not the right play, but it's baseball.

I know thats how baseball is, but like most realistic fans agree, you should put your BEST reliever in when its the highest leverage situation.

Tfence92 · Post #140 » by **Tfence92** » Tue Aug 8, 2017 5:56 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
Tfence92 wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:Barnes lol. Knebel didnt pitch last night but hey, "It wasnt a save situation"

No one is going to bring in the closer there.
Everyone would wait til they get a lead and bring him in to get the save.

You can argue that it's not the right play, but it's baseball.

I know thats how baseball is, but like most realistic fans agree, you should put your BEST reliever in when its the highest leverage situation.

I wouldn't go that far, "most"?

I mean, there isn't even really any one team that does it (Cards have done it recently, and Nats might be starting to do it now), so to say most realistic fans are behind it is quite a stretch.

I don't disagree in the ideology at all, fwiw. However, baseball comes down to money, and just like how we can argue Ws are meaningless for SP, you can do the same with saves. That said, wins and saves are what get you paid.