2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

[El Duderino]

I don't believe in Arietta, personally. Not at nine figures. Not at more than two years + a team option.

Just because we don't spend the money right now doesn't mean we can't spend the money in the future. Don't make the same mistakes as the Bucks. Don't overpay.

I agree

Let a guy like Woodruff pitch and see what we have in him. If Burnes does well again in the minors, maybe call him up mid-season.

As for free agents left, there is a chance someone like Cobb finds himself low on suitors and we could get him on the cheap. I want nothing to do with Lynn though or Arrieta beyond three years.

[humanrefutation]

I don't believe in Arietta, personally. Not at nine figures. Not at more than two years + a team option.

Just because we don't spend the money right now doesn't mean we can't spend the money in the future. Don't make the same mistakes as the Bucks. Don't overpay.

I agree

Let a guy like Woodruff pitch and see what we have in him. If Burnes does well again in the minors, maybe call him up mid-season.

As for free agents left, there is a chance someone like Cobb finds himself low on suitors and we could get him on the cheap. I want nothing to do with Lynn though or Arrieta beyond three years.

Yup.

If last season wasn't simply a flash in the pan - if it we really have a team that's on the cusp of being a serious contender, nothing will stop is from making moves in the future to help put us over the top. We have prospects we can choose to move. We have money to spend, according to Attanasio.

If we did overachieve last year, and some players just don't give us the same level of production this year, Arietta won't move the needle - and could possibly saddle us with an albatross contract that limits our ability to improve.

That's part of the reason why I wasn't high on the Cain signing. Yelich I could stomach, even as I thought we gave up a lot, because he's young and talented and cheap. Gotta hope Cain justifies the investment.

[El Duderino]

I don't believe in Arietta, personally. Not at nine figures. Not at more than two years + a team option.

Just because we don't spend the money right now doesn't mean we can't spend the money in the future. Don't make the same mistakes as the Bucks. Don't overpay.

I agree

Let a guy like Woodruff pitch and see what we have in him. If Burnes does well again in the minors, maybe call him up mid-season.

As for free agents left, there is a chance someone like Cobb finds himself low on suitors and we could get him on the cheap. I want nothing to do with Lynn though or Arrieta beyond three years.

Yup.

If last season wasn't simply a flash in the pan - if it we really have a team that's on the cusp of being a serious contender, nothing will stop is from making moves in the future to help put us over the top. We have prospects we can choose to move. We have money to spend, according to Attanasio.

If we did overachieve last year, and some players just don't give us the same level of production this year, Arietta won't move the needle - and could possibly saddle us with an albatross contract that limits our ability to improve.

That's part of the reason why I wasn't high on the Cain signing. Yelich I could stomach, even as I thought we gave up a lot, because he's young and talented and cheap. Gotta hope Cain justifies the investment.

Plus, we don't know what we have in Nelson. He's a major wildcard in the team's future. Don't know either if Anderson can be as good as last year.

[Tfence92]

It's even more dangerous to blow your load before you're ready.

I think that's a bigger danger the older one is, medically speaking. Given how young the Brewers are, premature load blowing is more due to exuberance than it is the health of the organization.

WE. AREN'T. YOUNG.

Tell that to Kidd... wait, wrong board.

[Kerb Hohl]

I agree

Let a guy like Woodruff pitch and see what we have in him. If Burnes does well again in the minors, maybe call him up mid-season.

As for free agents left, there is a chance someone like Cobb finds himself low on suitors and we could get him on the cheap. I want nothing to do with Lynn though or Arrieta beyond three years.

Yup.

If last season wasn't simply a flash in the pan - if it we really have a team that's on the cusp of being a serious contender, nothing will stop is from making moves in the future to help put us over the top. We have prospects we can choose to move. We have money to spend, according to Attanasio.

If we did overachieve last year, and some players just don't give us the same level of production this year, Arietta won't move the needle - and could possibly saddle us with an albatross contract that limits our ability to improve.

That's part of the reason why I wasn't high on the Cain signing. Yelich I could stomach, even as I thought we gave up a lot, because he's young and talented and cheap. Gotta hope Cain justifies the investment.

Plus, we don't know what we have in Nelson. He's a major wildcard in the team's future. Don't know either if Anderson can be as good as last year.

I do agree with both of you guys mostly, but I will say that if last year was a fluke, we’re probably 3 years away from doing anything again. In that case, Cain and Arrieta’s deals are almost over and we’ll have another set of young, cheap players. We can spend again in the next window.

I’m not saying that I’m chomping at the bit to overpay a huge free agent, but I don’t think Mark would sign himself over his budget for like a 5 year span this offseason. If he signed Arrieta, he has to think he can spend in a few years.

I don’t think we’re getting Arrieta anyways. If so, if it’s 4 years, I’d be a fan. 5 is pushing it.

[BallinBucks420]

I think the worst thing we could do at this point is dig in even deeper for at best a chance at a one game playoff.

That's hyperbolic to claim that's the upside when they got close to that already last year and confirmation bias from always wanting to tank for numerous years regardless of sport. That plan here was already abandoned. Worst thing would do is to stop short of potential contender by not adding a possible ace, like the Bucks in not acquiring a starting center after offloading a 1st for Bledsoe earlier.

Agreed..look baseball isn't like other sports...The draft is always an inexact science but baseball its even worse...It really doesn't matter where your drafting you can find talent anywhere and it has a lot to do with how you handle your budget

[BallinBucks420]

IF it comes to worst case scenario after this year and next and were not winning anything we have so many guys you could move for young contrallable talent...Its not like were stuck with bad contracts and **** players...if it goes worst case scenario you do what we did the last couple years before 2017

[ReasonablySober]

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[wichmae]

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I just dont buy it at this point. Unless were getting a major club friendly deal i dont think theyll do it. Heyman seems to be somewhat of a puppet for agents if you look at his tweet history.

[BUCKnation]

I like how he literally names every top pitcher available through trade or FA

[trwi7]

if it goes worst case scenario you do what we did the last couple years before 2017

So you do the exact same thing that didn't work the first time?

[Turk Nowitzki]

What the hell is this article?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/02/11/haudricourt-reports-brewers-interest-level-yu-darvish-likely-exaggerated/324908002/

[wichmae]

Rosenthal also reported last night that our interest in Darvish was pretty overblown.

[wichmae]

The other nugget he added was that we inquired about Jharel Cotton. At this point I just dont see any of the available guys as good enough to warrant a move. Especially the ones via trade. It just doesnt make much sense.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I think they're still going to add an arm. Even if they know they can't catch the Cubs they likely have designs on going after those WC spots, as much as some people hate that strategy.

[kid idioteque]

What the hell is this article?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/02/11/haudricourt-reports-brewers-interest-level-yu-darvish-likely-exaggerated/324908002/

Haudricourt just making **** up and presenting it as fact.

[Turk Nowitzki]

What the hell is this article?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/02/11/haudricourt-reports-brewers-interest-level-yu-darvish-likely-exaggerated/324908002/

Haudricourt just making **** up and presenting it as fact.

That was pretty much my take on it as well.

[Kerb Hohl]

I have no idea what to think but I do think it’s at least feasible that Stearns wanted to seem more serious than he was because the Cubs are the benefactors of good management and a strange offseason where they were the only large market in play.

[humanrefutation]

Rosenthal also reported last night that our interest in Darvish was pretty overblown.

What the hell is this article?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/02/11/haudricourt-reports-brewers-interest-level-yu-darvish-likely-exaggerated/324908002/

That's called saving face.

[M-C-G]

At this point, keep ALL of our pitching prospects and add the best pitcher we can to like a three year deal even if you are paying more per year. Let Braun play first with Thames, let Villar, Sogaard and Perez battle it out at second and sign Lucroy to a modest two year deal assuming it is reasonable.

And let's just see where the chips fall.