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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Moose to CIN; Hader's on the Block; Arcia Signs 1YD, Bye Shaw/Nelson+ 

Post#481 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 5, 2019 5:59 pm

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JimmyTheKid wrote:Don't forget about that Christian Yelich guy


I can edit my post, I just forgot. The question still stands. I don't want Gamel playing significant time when Braun is at 1B.


I'm fine giving Taylor an expanded role.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Moose to CIN; Hader's on the Block; Arcia Signs 1YD, Bye Shaw/Nelson+ 

Post#482 » by jmuelly » Thu Dec 5, 2019 6:05 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:That keon trade was a low key hell of a move last winter.

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Lets go all the way back to trading Jason Rogers for Broxton & Supak

It's not as good as a struggling JJ Hardy for Gomez who became a fan favorite turned

Hader
Santana into Gamel
Phillips assisted in getting Moose
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#483 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Dec 5, 2019 6:10 pm

OF has a plethora of cheap players that can be very productive. Corey Dickerson was once overrated for his Coors stats but is a valuable hitter. Pay him $5 million if Braun plays more 1B.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#484 » by jimmybones » Thu Dec 5, 2019 6:33 pm

Sign Castellanos and Donaldson and let’s rake teams to death.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#485 » by humanrefutation » Thu Dec 5, 2019 6:50 pm

A Mariners beat writer on Narvaez:

Well, Narvaez’s defense is, at best, below average and, at worst, abysmal to the point where forgettable Mariners catchers such as Miguel Olivo, Rob Johnson and Jeff Clement seemed more competent behind the plate. He was considered one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball, posting a minus-20 rating in defensive runs saved and a minus-6.5 on Fangraphs’ defensive rating. The Mariners understood this when they acquired him last season from the White Sox. But he never showed much improvement despite it being stressed to him.

His struggles with simply receiving pitches competently and his inability to frame pitches to steal strikes were a problem. And his lack of pregame preparation in terms of scouting reports and game calling were glaring in comparison to Murphy, who diligent to the point of obsessive. Privately multiple pitchers on the staff expressed a preference to pitch to Murphy, who seemed to put them ahead of his own personal offense.

There was also a concern/belief that Narvaez’s unexpected power jump was due to the homer-friendly baseball being used in 2019. They believed that his true power projection was between 10-15 homers per season, which is still useful. Narvaez’s body frame and conditioning habits — he got heavier as the season went on — were also an issue that would lead to injuries and decreased production with age.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#486 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 5, 2019 10:29 pm

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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#487 » by MVP2110 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 11:03 pm

Coach Drew: "Milwaukee has always been a team that I have been intrigued by. When we played them, they were a tough team for us to play. Although we did beat them all four times"
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#488 » by MVP2110 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 11:06 pm

Sounds like he gets the most out of his hitting by hitting to all fields and having optimized his launch angle
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#489 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Dec 5, 2019 11:28 pm

When it comes to strategy on how they approach a batter and overall how that pitcher approaches a game how much is controlled by the catcher vs analytics people and coaches?

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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Moose to CIN; Hader's on the Block; Arcia Signs 1YD, Bye Shaw/Nelson+ 

Post#490 » by bdpecore » Fri Dec 6, 2019 12:31 am

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:That keon trade was a low key hell of a move last winter.

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Lets go all the way back to trading Jason Rogers for Broxton & Supak

It's not as good as a struggling JJ Hardy for Gomez who became a fan favorite turned

Hader
Santana into Gamel
Phillips assisted in getting Moose
Houser

This reminds me of that show where the two guys keep trading goods until they wind up with something 10x more valuable. Anyone who can turn Jason Rogers into Omar Narvaez, Trey Supak and Bobby Wahl should be commended.

Well played Mr. Stearns!!!
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#491 » by tski1972 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 1:18 am

Is Omar kinda like Johnny Estrada?
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#492 » by engelmartin » Fri Dec 6, 2019 1:22 am

jimmybones wrote:Sign Castellanos and Donaldson and let’s rake teams to death.

Howie Kendrick and Justin Smoak are still out there. The guy I really want is Ryosuke Kikuchi.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#493 » by LittleRooster » Fri Dec 6, 2019 1:37 am

tski1972 wrote:Is Omar kinda like Johnny Estrada?


God I hope not..


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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#494 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Dec 6, 2019 1:54 am

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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#495 » by trwi7 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 3:14 am

tski1972 wrote:Is Omar kinda like Johnny Estrada?


Narvaez will actually take a pitch.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#496 » by DrWood » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:06 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:When it comes to strategy on how they approach a batter and overall how that pitcher approaches a game how much is controlled by the catcher vs analytics people and coaches?

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basically the C has no role in that.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#497 » by DrWood » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:12 am

humanrefutation wrote:A Mariners beat writer on Narvaez:

Well, Narvaez’s defense is, at best, below average and, at worst, abysmal to the point where forgettable Mariners catchers such as Miguel Olivo, Rob Johnson and Jeff Clement seemed more competent behind the plate. He was considered one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball, posting a minus-20 rating in defensive runs saved and a minus-6.5 on Fangraphs’ defensive rating. The Mariners understood this when they acquired him last season from the White Sox. But he never showed much improvement despite it being stressed to him.

His struggles with simply receiving pitches competently and his inability to frame pitches to steal strikes were a problem. And his lack of pregame preparation in terms of scouting reports and game calling were glaring in comparison to Murphy, who diligent to the point of obsessive. Privately multiple pitchers on the staff expressed a preference to pitch to Murphy, who seemed to put them ahead of his own personal offense.

There was also a concern/belief that Narvaez’s unexpected power jump was due to the homer-friendly baseball being used in 2019. They believed that his true power projection was between 10-15 homers per season, which is still useful. Narvaez’s body frame and conditioning habits — he got heavier as the season went on — were also an issue that would lead to injuries and decreased production with age.

The stats Fangraphs uses gives a huge value to framing pitches, but it's really not certain how important that is.
He's moving to a park that rewards LH power more than in SEA, so he'll probably hit more HRs. . . if he can stay on the field enough to get enough PAs.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#498 » by neiLz » Fri Dec 6, 2019 5:18 am

I really like the deal and am intrigued with what Stearns does.

If they go back up to 130 mil payroll they have options.

Braun and lefty platoon at 1b.
Pay about 5 mil for an outfielder.
Keep Hader and hopefully knebel comes back. Would be a good 1/2 punch.
Possibly sign Donaldson on a 1 year big deal and still have some money to get a number 2/3 pitcher.

There's options. We just don't know the budget and Stearns has been really resourceful in who he targets.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#499 » by coolhandluke121 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 3:30 pm

I still don't believe in Braun playing 1B at all. He made it very clear he wasn't comfortable there, and he said all the bending and stooping hurt his back. He was willing to try it, but he made it clear he doesn't think it's in the team's best interests.

Seems they need two LHB's on the infield if possible. I'm kind of surprised they didn't give Shaw another chance. If I'm not mistaken, he still has an option. I'm kind of assuming there's a 75% chance Smoak or Thames will be the primary 1B, but what are the options at 3B? Moustakas or Shaw seemed like the obvious choices, and if there were going to get Seager, it seems they would have done it in the Narvaez deal (though it still could happen).
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Re: 2019 Brewers Offseason Thread - Acquire Narvaez from SEA for a Prospect and a Pick 

Post#500 » by MAC1987 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:24 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:I still don't believe in Braun playing 1B at all. He made it very clear he wasn't comfortable there, and he said all the bending and stooping hurt his back. He was willing to try it, but he made it clear he doesn't think it's in the team's best interests.

Seems they need two LHB's on the infield if possible. I'm kind of surprised they didn't give Shaw another chance. If I'm not mistaken, he still has an option. I'm kind of assuming there's a 75% chance Smoak or Thames will be the primary 1B, but what are the options at 3B? Moustakas or Shaw seemed like the obvious choices, and if there were going to get Seager, it seems they would have done it in the Narvaez deal (though it still could happen).
I agree, i am not a fan of Braun at 1B either. However, all depends on what Stearns was thinking when he said Braun at 1st because to me that implied getting another OF or they like some young guy coming up.

Smoak/Cron/Thames at 1st. Fine.

3B? Mystery to me too.

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