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Brewers 2025 Discussion - Frelick Activated, Black Sent Down
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2024 5:52 pm
by MickeyDavis

Payroll right now is down $16 million from last year (according to ESPN). Attendance last year was up about 1,500 per game from 2023 but was down 4,500 per game from 2019. Also down from 2018 and 2017. It doesn't look like that $16 million will be spent but it's still about 3 weeks till the opener. If things go well maybe we pick someone up at the deadline but that would be a partial season salary. And there's still a chance that Adames and his $12.5 million get moved, if not now, maybe at the deadline. Hopefully the kids perform well and we are competitive from the start. Last year we began 6-1. A 6 game losing streak in May and another 6 game losing streak in June put us at .500. A 9 game winning streak in August put us on the path to the division title. The second and third home games only drew ~18k and ~19K vs. the Mets. Attendance picked up as the team kept winning.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2024 10:47 pm
by MVP2110
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Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2024 7:00 pm
by Thunder Muscle
MickeyDavis wrote:Payroll right now is down $16 million from last year (according to ESPN). Attendance last year was up about 1,500 per game from 2023 but was down 4,500 per game from 2019. Also down from 2018 and 2017. It doesn't look like that $16 million will be spent but it's still about 3 weeks till the opener. If things go well maybe we pick someone up at the deadline but that would be a partial season salary. And there's still a chance that Adames and his $12.5 million get moved, if not now, maybe at the deadline. Hopefully the kids perform well and we are competitive from the start. Last year we began 6-1. A 6 game losing streak in May and another 6 game losing streak in June put us at .500. A 9 game winning streak in August put us on the path to the division title. The second and third home games only drew ~18k and ~19K vs. the Mets. Attendance picked up as the team kept winning.
I feel like attendance will take a similar path this year. I expect it to be low early for sure. I think casuals are probably more butt hurt over Burnes trade, no Counsell, and thinking the team will stink. I believe I saw even Opening Day had quite a few tickets available yet. BUT I do think this team also may create a ton more interest if the youth play well as it may invigorate new hope vs last year where it felt like a lets see what happens in the playoffs (or even general apathy that we've seen this story before with this team). I bought a ticket bank this year with the team and its the first time I did anything with the team in many years from a package standpoint. Its nothing big, basically a credit to buy games without fees with some games excluded, but I'm geared up for another season.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2024 7:08 pm
by Thunder Muscle
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That is interesting. If he turned down 9 figures, there is zero chance he is back after this year and that is the right call. I think at this point they're going to roll into the season with him and probably move him at the deadline if any kind of good deal is on the table. I don't love that if they are in the the playoff race as I think the PR hit, the team reaction, optics, etc will be brutal. He seems to be having a decent spring at the plate so maybe there will be a trade yet before the season, but honestly I think at this point I ride it out for a comp pick. If the team is way out of it come July, trading him then will be easier too.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2024 8:56 pm
by MVP2110
Thunder Muscle wrote:Looks like Wiemer is really struggling (10 Ks in 25 ABs; .436 OPS) and Perkins has been brutal at the plate. Kind of thinking both of those guys start in AAA. Good to see Frelick and Chourio doing fairly well, MItchell been solid too.
Eric Haase (1.329 OPS in 16 ABs) is making a case to make the team too, especially since I don't think Sanchez has even played yet this spring.
Turang struggling at the plate, I just don't have much faith in him ever being a very good MLB level hitter. Dunn, Miller, Ortiz all hitting way better in spring so far.
It will be interesting to see how the opening day roster shakes out. Still a few weeks to sort itself out too and obviously will have injuries, etc...
I'd bet on one of Wiemer or Perkins making the roster just to start against lefties, Wiemer crushed lefties last year, unless they plan on giving Haase some starts in the OF which I suppose is possible
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:03 pm
by ReasonablySober
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:34 pm
by ReasonablySober
Good (or interesting) article projecting the opening day roster. Catcher (3): William Contreras, Gary Sánchez, Eric Haase
First baseman (1): Rhys Hoskins
Second baseman (1): Brice Turang
Third baseman (1): Joey Ortiz
Shortstop (1): Willy Adames
Outfielders (4): Christian Yelich, Jackson Chourio, Sal Frelick, Garrett Mitchell
Bench/Utility (2): Jake Bauers, Andruw Monasterio
Starting Pitchers (5): Freddy Peralta, Colin Rea, Joe Ross, Jakob Junis, DL Hall
Relief Pitchers (8): Devin Williams, Trevor Megill, Joel Payamps, Abner Uribe, Hoby Milner, Taylor Clarke, Bryse Wilson, Aaron Ashby
Sal being able to handle 3rd would be huge. I love the bullpen, even if Devin has to miss time. The rotation is yikes.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:45 pm
by ReasonablySober
Anyone see ESPN's Top 100 players? Brewers on the list:
86. Willy Adames, SS, Milwaukee Brewers
96. Christian Yelich, LF, Milwaukee Brewers
99. Devin Williams, RP, Milwaukee Brewers
Pretty weird that the 26 year old William Contreras, who lead catchers in MLB with 5.6 fWAR, didn't even make the list.
Meanwhile:
11. Adley Rutschman, C, Baltimore Orioles
46. Will Smith, C, Los Angeles Dodgers
60. J.T. Realmuto, C, Philadelphia Phillies
69. Sean Murphy, C, Atlanta Braves
93. Gabriel Moreno, C, Arizona Diamondbacks
97. Cal Raleigh, C, Seattle Mariners
William didn't even make their snubs list, somehow.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:19 pm
by MVP2110
ReasonablySober wrote:Anyone see ESPN's Top 100 players? Brewers on the list:
86. Willy Adames, SS, Milwaukee Brewers
96. Christian Yelich, LF, Milwaukee Brewers
99. Devin Williams, RP, Milwaukee Brewers
Pretty weird that the 26 year old William Contreras, who lead catchers in MLB with 5.6 fWAR, didn't even make the list.
Meanwhile:
11. Adley Rutschman, C, Baltimore Orioles
46. Will Smith, C, Los Angeles Dodgers
60. J.T. Realmuto, C, Philadelphia Phillies
69. Sean Murphy, C, Atlanta Braves
93. Gabriel Moreno, C, Arizona Diamondbacks
97. Cal Raleigh, C, Seattle Mariners
William didn't even make their snubs list, somehow.
Yea, it's wild Contreras didn't make the list at all. Very similar to Devin being so far behind Bednar on the Show
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:03 pm
by MickeyDavis
Thunder Muscle wrote:I’ve went from feeling we are going to be frisky and competitive to much less optimistic. I think that starting rotation has potential to be pretty bad. Williams is hurt now. Turang, Wiemer all look like the same hitters as last year. Maybe putting too much into spring ball, but doesn’t look like many guys are jumping out. Frelick I guess. Chourio seems to be holding his own.
If the young guys don't progress it could be a long year. Hopefully Chourio shows flashes. The upside to having a down year is we'll get something for Adames at the deadline instead of nothing in the offseason. That's assuming he's playing well though.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:47 pm
by ReasonablySober
Yuck.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:23 am
by WeekapaugGroove
ReasonablySober wrote:Anyone see ESPN's Top 100 players? Brewers on the list:
86. Willy Adames, SS, Milwaukee Brewers
96. Christian Yelich, LF, Milwaukee Brewers
99. Devin Williams, RP, Milwaukee Brewers
Pretty weird that the 26 year old William Contreras, who lead catchers in MLB with 5.6 fWAR, didn't even make the list.
Meanwhile:
11. Adley Rutschman, C, Baltimore Orioles
46. Will Smith, C, Los Angeles Dodgers
60. J.T. Realmuto, C, Philadelphia Phillies
69. Sean Murphy, C, Atlanta Braves
93. Gabriel Moreno, C, Arizona Diamondbacks
97. Cal Raleigh, C, Seattle Mariners
William didn't even make their snubs list, somehow.
It's ridiculous. Id have him higher than any other Brewers player.
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Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:27 am
by ReasonablySober
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:30 am
by ReasonablySober
Feel bad for Devin, but it would be great if he were back by early July.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:36 am
by Thunder Muscle
Damn. Glad he should make a full recovery though and at least it is a position of depth, seemingly at least.
…and literally drafted him an hour ago in my fantasy baseball league, haha, siiiiiigh.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:37 am
by Matches Malone
Let Uribe cook
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:45 am
by ReasonablySober
I still like the bullpen. But that rotation is an eyesore.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:53 am
by MVP2110
Atleast the bullpen is deep and atleast he should be back by June. Fangraphs Roster Resource already lists Trevor Megill as the closer which seems odd. I'm fascinated to see how Pat Murphy handles the closer role, does he let Uribe just take it? Does Payamps or Megill get a chance? Most likely it'll be a committee and not just one guy but I'm very interested
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:03 am
by ReasonablySober
I hope they don't go this route, but Miso and Hall are lock down 8-9 options.
Re: Brewers 2024 Discussion
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:03 am
by Turk Nowitzki
So he was pitching through back soreness late last season and we didn't think to at least get it looked after the season?