*METS Playoffs '15* - WORLD SERIES v. K.C.

[Stannis]

Collins was managing games fine until this one.

- In hindsight, it looked like Laragas was the one who should've started. That inside the park home run wouldn't have happened with him in the center. Secondly, he had very of the good ABs.
- I'm still iffy on whether DeGrom or Harvey should've started this game.
- Clippard shouldn't have been in that 8th.
- I thought Niese should've finished the order.
- Too many intentional walks for Colon.

But, it's not all on Collins. These players have to adapt. Duda will take a looking strike at his pitch then swing at a pitch at his ankles. Many others do this too. I don't know what Cuddyer is doing.

I feel a little bad for Niese. That would've been a heroic relief appearance for him if the team came out with the W.

I guess on the bright side, the Mets put a little strain on their bullpen for tomorrow and their Game 4 starter.

Any chance Uribe is coming back? That's a guy I want to try at DH.

Tomorrow is a must win! You have to hit their starter early.

[Stannis]

The Fox coverage sucks. TBS was a lot better.

And lol @ Fox getting ARod and Pete Rose for their postgame. Are they trying to get the baseball purist to go on strike?

They should at least go back to the old MLB Theme:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4b_-TMdRIY[/youtube]

[JackSIKMA43]

If I see Cuddyer up to bat one more frickin' time, I'm gonna scream. Tough loss, but we'll bounce back tonight.

[F N 11]

Thatw as a tough one for Mets fans. I personally think Familia doing that quick pitch crap screwed him up.

[mpharris36]

Thatw as a tough one for Mets fans. I personally think Familia doing that quick pitch crap screwed him up.

the problem with his quick pitch is 2 things:

1. Its almost always a fastball (so if a hitter is ready he knows the speed of the pitch).

2. He looses a lot of sink on that pitch. He has the same velocity but it runs more side to side instead of up and down which is easier for a hitter to hit because the pitch stays on the same plane.

The quick pitch is useful for deception purposes but familia has some of the best stuff in the majors he has 3 out pitches, he doesn't need to mess around with the quick pitch because his stuff is that good.

[F N 11]

Thatw as a tough one for Mets fans. I personally think Familia doing that quick pitch crap screwed him up.

the problem with his quick pitch is 2 things:

1. Its almost always a fastball (so if a hitter is ready he knows the speed of the pitch).

2. He looses a lot of sink on that pitch. He has the same velocity but it runs more side to side instead of up and down which is easier for a hitter to hit because the pitch stays on the same plane.

The quick pitch is useful for deception purposes but familia has some of the best stuff in the majors he has 3 out pitches, he doesn't need to mess around with the quick pitch because his stuff is that good.

When I saw him do it, on everything...I said he's going to give up a HR. Its like when Elduque threw A Rod an ephus pitch back in the day trying to trick him. A Rod put it by the ambulance in left field in old yankee stadium.

[islanders11040]

Degrom has the opportunity to end all questions about who the Mets ace is.

[HarthorneWingo]

Collins was managing games fine until this one.

- In hindsight, it looked like Laragas was the one who should've started. That inside the park home run wouldn't have happened with him in the center. Secondly, he had very of the good ABs.
- I'm still iffy on whether DeGrom or Harvey should've started this game.
- Clippard shouldn't have been in that 8th.
- I thought Niese should've finished the order.
- Too many intentional walks for Colon.

But, it's not all on Collins. These players have to adapt. Duda will take a looking strike at his pitch then swing at a pitch at his ankles. Many others do this too. I don't know what Cuddyer is doing.

I feel a little bad for Niese. That would've been a heroic relief appearance for him if the team came out with the W.

I guess on the bright side, the Mets put a little strain on their bullpen for tomorrow and their Game 4 starter.

Any chance Uribe is coming back? That's a guy I want to try at DH.

Tomorrow is a must win! You have to hit their starter early.

I wanted Legares to start, but I didn't kill TC for going with Conforto. Juan hasn't been his usual Gold Glove self this past year. He did miss that ball over his head against Chicago and Cespedes has been good in CF. But, all that said, Juan starts tonight, Cespeds to LF and Conforto to DH.

I wanted Uribe to PH last night. Don't know why TC didn't use him.

Last night, the pressure was on KC. Tonight it's on us.

[HarthorneWingo]

I busted ARod for all the mishigas, but he's a GREAT baseball analyst. He'll be a great manager or TV analyst after he retires.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't want to see anymore of Michael Cuddyer this series. He looks like he should retire.

[KnicksGod]

Something about the approaches of Harvey and Cespedes that I find a little questionable. Low IQ players perhaps.

[Stannis]

I'm nervous. I can see KC getting DeGrom early. DeGrom is a fastball pitcher and KC are fastball hitters.

Mets better hit their SP early.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm nervous. I can see KC getting DeGrom early. DeGrom is a fastball pitcher and KC are fastball hitters.

Mets better hit their SP early.

Jacob's more than just a fastball pitcher. He's got the curve, slider and change-up to go with two different types of fastballs and can command all of them. We just need to (1) catch the ball; and (2) hit better. I'm not afraid of Cueto. We know him well. And Jacob is a much better pitcher.

[HarthorneWingo]

Something about the approaches of Harvey and Cespedes that I find a little questionable. Low IQ players perhaps.

Harvey just didn't have his fastball last night. But he still needed to hold that lead int he 6th and he didn't. I don't think Harvey is a low IQ pitcher.

Cespedes is just overanxious at the plate and seems like he's trying to hit a grand slam with every pitch. I'd like to see him take a pitch up the middle or to RF.

[Stannis]

Harvey definitely didn't read the scouting report on Escobar. It was a dumb first pitch to say the least.

[Stannis]

Conforto will DH.

Laragas in center. Going to miss Cespedes's arm from center, but I think Laragas is a better choice for this game.

[Stannis]

So you guys think Familia will ditch the quick pitch?

Hopefully he doesn't. KC is pretty good at scouting pitchers. They'll know when it's coming and how to hit it again.

[mpharris36]

So you guys think Familia will ditch the quick pitch?

Hopefully he does. KC is pretty good at scouting pitchers. They'll know when it's coming and how to hit it again.

If he's going to use the quick pitch he's got to throw another pitch. Throw a quick pitch slider. KC at this point is gearing up for a quick pitch and knowns 100% a fastball is coming. If he throws a quick pitch slider the hitter will be way out in front.

[whocares1]

Collins was managing games fine until this one.

- In hindsight, it looked like Laragas was the one who should've started. That inside the park home run wouldn't have happened with him in the center. Secondly, he had very of the good ABs.
- I'm still iffy on whether DeGrom or Harvey should've started this game.
- Clippard shouldn't have been in that 8th.
- I thought Niese should've finished the order.
- Too many intentional walks for Colon.

But, it's not all on Collins. These players have to adapt. Duda will take a looking strike at his pitch then swing at a pitch at his ankles. Many others do this too. I don't know what Cuddyer is doing.

I feel a little bad for Niese. That would've been a heroic relief appearance for him if the team came out with the W.

I guess on the bright side, the Mets put a little strain on their bullpen for tomorrow and their Game 4 starter.

Any chance Uribe is coming back? That's a guy I want to try at DH.

Tomorrow is a must win! You have to hit their starter early.

1. You said it perfectly, "in hindsight". There was no way of predicting that Cespedes was going to mess up on that play before the game. He has been an above average CF while he has been here. Lagares has also been inconsistent with the bat all season long so I don't fault Terry on the line-up. He has Lagares going tonight so that's great.

2. If Degrom pitched Game 1 and lost, Harvey would've been a huge question mark. Harvey hates pitching on extended rest because it takes him out of rhythm. A game 1 start put him as close as a regular rest as he could have. If he had poor control in Game 1, imagine Game 2?

3. I agree that Clippard has sucked, but there really isn't anyone that can fill that 8th inning. Terry is banking on him, but Clippard simply just has to perform.

4. Two innings was fine for Niese

5. They were trying to get a force out at homeplate. Colon is a sinker ball pitcher, so that was the plan.

[Greenie]

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