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Host of second basemen available?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:08 pm
by Manhattan Project

Host Of Second Basemen Available
23rd July, 2007 - 2:59 pm
Star-Ledger - If the Mets decide to pursue a trade for a second baseman, they'd find a stunning number of them available. Washington's Ronnie Belliard, Tampa Bay's Jorge Cantu (and ex-Met Wigginton, who can play second), the White Sox' Tadahito Iguchi, Arizona's Orlando Hudson, Houston's Mark Loretta, San Francisco's Ray Durham and Kansas City's Mark Grudzielanek all are or could be available for various reasons. [READ]


Orlando Hudson anybody? His glove would be a welcome addition and is a solid hitter.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:40 pm
by krustytheclown
reyes and hudson would be SOLID

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:46 pm
by Jose7
No way the DBacks trade Hudson.

I'd like to give Gotay a shot. Platoon him and easley is perfectly fine with me.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:00 pm
by vincanityisdagr8est
I heard Hudson isn't happy there.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:19 pm
by randomhero423
Hudson would be too expensive.

I would give Gotay the month of August to prove his worth. If he fails, I'd then do a trade small trade in August.

Durham, Loretta, Grudz. will all be avail by then probably.

Another intresting idea would maybe pair Loretta with one of the Astros' RP like Wheeler, Lidge, Qualls.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:32 pm
by vincanityisdagr8est
randomhero423 wrote:Hudson would be too expensive.

I would give Gotay the month of August to prove his worth. If he fails, I'd then do a trade small trade in August.

Durham, Loretta, Grudz. will all be avail by then probably.

Another intresting idea would maybe pair Loretta with one of the Astros' RP like Wheeler, Lidge, Qualls.


The problem with that is, players would have to go through waivers. And teams like SD, ATL, Phil, might block it by claiming the players.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:39 pm
by randomhero423
vincanityisdagr8est wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The problem with that is, players would have to go through waivers. And teams like SD, ATL, Phil, might block it by claiming the players.


Was that possiblity with the Shawn Green trade? I honestly don't really get why there's a deadline, if deals can still be done in Aug. But I was thinking more along the lines of what happened with the Green deal.

Also, out of those teams, only SD really need a 2b. And I named three guys, so i think the possiblitiy of getting a Loretta/Grudz/Durham can still happen.

We also shouldn't sleep on Luis Castillo.

And I still got faith in Gotay!

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:58 pm
by vincanityisdagr8est
randomhero423 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Was that possiblity with the Shawn Green trade? I honestly don't really get why there's a deadline, if deals can still be done in Aug. But I was thinking more along the lines of what happened with the Green deal.

Also, out of those teams, only SD really need a 2b. And I named three guys, so i think the possiblitiy of getting a Loretta/Grudz/Durham can still happen.

We also shouldn't sleep on Luis Castillo.

And I still got faith in Gotay!


Green had a terrible contract though. Loretta, Grudz, and Durham all have 1 year deals. You're right none of those teams need a second baseman, but teams have been known to block trades in order to keep a player from rejoining a rival team. It probably won't happen in this case other than Durham.

The guy I want is Belliard. He is a good hitter, very good fielder, doesn't SO. He can be the perfect number 2 hitter, or you can put him in the bottom of the lineup and get production.

1. Reyes
2. Lo Duca
3. Beltran
4. Wright
5. Delgado
6. Alou
7. Green
8. Belliard

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:00 pm
by Jose7
Grudz has a player option for next year.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:08 pm
by randomhero423
Belliard is also from the Bronx

My point is, there is a ton of 2b's avail, and we should give Gotay a real chance (meaning a month) of starting, before we judge. Unless some are dealt, there will be around 5-10 2b's avail in August who are starter quality. (Castillo, Grudz, Durham, Belliard, Loretta, Cantu, Hudson, Wiggy, etc)

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:48 pm
by randomhero423
Looks like we aren't getting Belliard. He just signed an extenison with the Nats.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:53 pm
by vincanityisdagr8est
Damn!!!!!!!!! THey should have signed him in the offseason instead of bringing back Valentine.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:21 am
by Manhattan Project
The thing is that I want the IF set for the most part. Im sick of these old players that Minaya finds but are not part of the future. Thats the player I want, one that can still play for the next four five years.

Hudson-30
Cantu-25
Iguchi-33
Wigginton-30
Belliard-32
Lorretta-36
Grudzielanek-37
Durham-36

To me there are only three realistic options. Cantu, Hudson and Wigginton. The rest are to old for me.

Gotay's glove is just to bad for me, I dont want to take a chance on him this year. I like him as a platoon, but if you can get Hudson you better...

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:45 am
by randomhero423
well cantu's glove is worse then gotay's.

i'd like wigginton, lorreta, or even durham. we don't need a long-term answer. i'd first like to see how gotay does with his shot.

i also think we can get those three guys cheap. hudson will be to expensive. (milledge for hudson is intresting though...if we can sign hudson to a long-term contract then maybe).

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:52 am
by MetaKnick13
Orlando Hudson is the best choice by far.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:54 am
by mets87
agreed...if he goes for anybody i'd prefer hudson

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:16 am
by vincanityisdagr8est
randomhero423 wrote:well cantu's glove is worse then gotay's.
i'd like wigginton, lorreta, or even durham. we don't need a long-term answer. i'd first like to see how gotay does with his shot.

i also think we can get those three guys cheap. hudson will be to expensive. (milledge for hudson is intresting though...if we can sign hudson to a long-term contract then maybe).


Plus he had one good year. He should be the cheapest out of everyone though. I like Lorreta, he's a good hitter. Doesn't strikeout, draws some walks, works the count, and goes to right field. Great fit to as our 2nd hitter.

As for Hudson, I wouldn't find trading Milledge for him. But like you said if we can sign him to a long term deal.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:57 am
by krustytheclown
hudson is a fa at the end of the season..is he not?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:03 am
by vincanityisdagr8est
marbury2curry wrote:hudson is a fa at the end of the season..is he not?


No, he has 1 more year to go after this.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:21 am
by krustytheclown
hudson is the best choice