Yanks @ Rays: A more accurate barometer reading

[Pharmcat]

[Dr. Detfink]

What an important win by the Yanks. The stats don't tell the whole story. Joba pitched with poise and confidence. This is very good litmus acid test. The Yanks rebounded after a flat performance last night. They were rewarded by a Boston loss.

If I the Blue Jays offered Halladay for Joba and Austin Jackson, I would still bite but it would now make me think about it before hitting the button.

The 4 game set vs. the White Sox should be very interesting. Pettitte, Mitre, AJ, CC...another very fun challenge.

[nykgeneralmanager]

The White Sox series will definitely be interesting. They will be throwing 3 lefties which usually works in our favor.

[PR07]

When Joba pitches like a bulldog, he can be incredible. We saw that tonight.

[rappa]

hmm so Dr. Deftnik can you admit that you just have a hardon for all redsox prospects and underappreciate your own teams? hell just admit you were wrong about bucholz and masterson. btw, have you even looked at the lineup buchholtz faced that night he threw the no hitter? please do and then tell me how much you think that no hitter means these days

[nykgeneralmanager]

I'd also love to know why the world has a hard on for Bard. Good prospect, but he's a reliever, he hasn't started since he was in A ball when he had a 6.42 ERA in low-A and 10.13 ERA in high-A as a starter then he was converted into a reliever. Yet he gets talked about as a main piece in a package whereas a guy like Melancon or even Robertson have just as good of numbers if not better but seem to be afterthoughts. I'm not mad, I want to keep these guys and win with them, but its hilarious to hear that guys like Clay Buchholz or Daniel Bard are deal breakers for Roy Halladay.

[HCYanks]

I think the justification for the Red Sox not wanting to move Bard is Papelbon has gotten damned lucky in a lot of appearances this year and it might be more sensible to ship him elsewhere before he starts to get expensive and plug Bard in at closer in the next 1-2 years. The Sox may act a tad cocky with their prospects at times but I doubt Epstein is really dense enough to think Bard is some kind of superprospect.

[Dr. Detfink]

Well, not only that but more importantly Papelbon is starting to buy the "best closer in MLB" crap that Buster Olney has been saying over the last couple years. He wants BIG $$$$$$ and the Sox just won't do that for a closer. Hence, Bard will replace Papelbon when the time comes.

[nykgeneralmanager]

I think the justification for the Red Sox not wanting to move Bard is Papelbon has gotten damned lucky in a lot of appearances this year and it might be more sensible to ship him elsewhere before he starts to get expensive and plug Bard in at closer in the next 1-2 years. The Sox may act a tad cocky with their prospects at times but I doubt Epstein is really dense enough to think Bard is some kind of superprospect.

Yeah I don't disagree with Boston for wanting to keep him, just the general perception from the media and fans that "OMG the Sox can't include Bard in the Halladay deal!"