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OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR.

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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#21 » by moocow007 » Sat Aug 1, 2009 12:08 am

AL2JD wrote:
moocow007 wrote:That's the guy! The triple chins gave it away right? :lol:


Enrique was a pretty decent pickup, especially because he always owned Pedro.


I believe from Joe Torre's "The Yankee Years" per Tom Verducci (the narrator of the book):

“(Enrique) Wilson normally would be the last guy you would want taking an at-bat when you were down to the last seven outs of your playoff life. Quite simply, Enrique Wilson was one of the worst hitters ever to play for the New York Yankees. He appeared in 264 games for the Yankees and batted .216. Only four men in the history of the franchise ever hit worse with that much time in pinstripes: Bill Robinson (.206, 1967-69), Jim Mason (.208, 1974-76), Lute Boone (.210, 1913-16) and Steve Balboni (.214, 1981-90). Moreover, Wilson was neither especially fleet nor adept in the field. His value essentially came down to one specific and unexplainable skill: he could hit Pedro Martinez.”
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#22 » by moocow007 » Sat Aug 1, 2009 12:15 am

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AL2JD wrote:
moocow007 wrote:That's the guy! The triple chins gave it away right? :lol:


Enrique was a pretty decent pickup, especially because he always owned Pedro.


Wasn't he the Herb Williams of the Yankees, stayed being traded only to end up back in pinstripes at the end of the day......


Actually that may be Damaso Marte, the guy the Yanks traded to the Pirates for Enrique Wilson in 2001. From 2002-2007 Marte was one of the better leftie relievers in the game for the White Sox and the Pirates.
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#23 » by I am Ra » Sat Aug 1, 2009 1:24 am

smh at mitre, shouldve gotten bannister
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#24 » by Smoke24 » Sat Aug 1, 2009 1:36 am

kingofkingz wrote:smh at mitre, shouldve gotten bannister


It must take real talent to blow a 3-0 lead and you play for the Yankees......... :lol:
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#25 » by I am Ra » Sat Aug 1, 2009 1:48 am

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kingofkingz wrote:smh at mitre, shouldve gotten bannister


It must take real talent to blow a 3-0 lead and you play for the Yankees......... :lol:


my only question is since when did 600K mean anything to the yankees? Thats the reason why the trade didnt go down according to MLBTR.com. And Mitre is horrible. Pitches down the middle of the plate and looks like the early wang this season.
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#26 » by PR07 » Sat Aug 1, 2009 6:29 am

I get to see the Reds a lot, and Hairston is a nice utility guy. He can play a lot of positions and plays them fairly well, and will give us some pop with his bat.
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#27 » by Dr. Detfink » Sat Aug 1, 2009 8:25 am

This is a smoke screen for Cashman.

The Yanks needed another back up infielder when we have Hinske, Ramiro Pena, Cody Ransom...?

The Yanks badly needed another starter.
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#28 » by jeff1624 » Sat Aug 1, 2009 10:54 am

We still have the waiver wire to look forward to. I remember Cashman saying earlier in the year that the trading deadline wasn't as big as it use to be with the waiver wire in hand. Now that teams are hesitant to make a waiver claim and risk getting stuck with said players salary it's easier to deal for players. That's why I'm not disappointed we weren't able to land a starter yesterday. I'm sure Cashman will get something done in the next few weeks...
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#29 » by mccannd » Sat Aug 1, 2009 12:51 pm

Mainly I agree with your points about Martinez but you forget that he can also DH. The other point worth remembering is that Varitak, Lowell and Ortiz need rest. A good move by Boston though I was surprised that they didnt get a pitcher. I guess that, like the Yankees, they felt teams were asking for too much.

I expect that we will be competing with Boston on the waiver lines.

quote="Jitpal"]
Duhon2Lee42 wrote:Doesn't really make a difference. Sox got Victor Martinez. What a move.

Hopefully we don't meet the Sox in the playoffs.

Victor Martinez is vastly overrated. Putting him in the lineup hurts them in one way or another. He can play 1st and Catch. Either place they put him, they hurt the defense, significantly. Their defense this year is bad to begin with. If you play him at 1st, move Youkalis to 3rd, the defense at 1st and 3rd is worse and there isn't a huge increase in offensive production, if any, between Lowell and Martinez. He only helps the offense significantly when he plays in place of Varitek, in which case, the defense and game calling is worse. Not to mention that the Red Sox laud Varitek as the heart and soul of the team, which they effectively bench with V-Mart on the field. The deal will help them, especially if he can fill in for Kottaras or whoever they have catching Wakefield these days and on the days that Lowell has to sit. Not a big deal in my opinion.

Hairston on the other hand replaces Cody Ransom. Hairston has more speed and can play more positions. So it's an upgrade, again minimal. On the nice side, he's been pretty hot after the all-star break so far this year.

The other interesting thing is V-Mart's BA and OPS has been in decline every single month from his hot start. Does Fenway revive his well below pedestrian OPS? We will see. -Jitpal[/quote]
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#30 » by Dr. Detfink » Sat Aug 1, 2009 9:59 pm

Wait, let's not get crazy...um, Varitek is not hitting and his defense is not any better than Victor Martinez. In fact, the Red Sox have been trying to get rid of this guy for some time now if not for the sole reason of hating Scott Boras.

The Red Sox aren't a great defensive team? I dunno if I'd go that far. They are no Phillies but they are tough enough to make the plays they have to.

As for Hairston, this is a smokescreen. I mean, c'mon CAshman couldn't call up Montero or JAckson for 50 at bats if that? I mean, isn't this the reason why the Yanks are so uppety about their precious farm system. Well let's see it!

This irritates me almost as much as last year when Cashman went with Sidney Ponson, Daryl Rasner, and Richie Sexson and expected the Yanks to make the playoffs.
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#31 » by Pharmcat » Sun Aug 2, 2009 4:16 am

this lack of inactivity is gonna be crucial down the stretch, this team is out of gas and no reserves in sight
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Re: OT: Yankees Aquire Jerry Hairston JR. 

Post#32 » by Dr. Detfink » Sun Aug 2, 2009 8:20 am

That's not even my concern. My only question is the rationale behind trading for another utility guy when you need EVERY starter to fight off the Red Sox. You can do trades like this is you have a lead like the Phillies and Dodgers have over their divisions.

The Yanks had a SPECIFIC need and Cashman thinks waived pitchers in August can duct tape the 4 and 5 spot. Is he kidding me? The Wild Card is NOT automatic any more in the AL.

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