2011 mlb draft

[Pharmcat]

gerrit cole set to go #1

[Wade2k6]

Yeah that's some BS isn't it. I'd love to have him in the system now.

[moocow007]

What was the deal with Cole? Yankees had him but he didn't sign right?

[Pharmcat]

What was the deal with Cole? Yankees had him but he didn't sign right?

they werent even willing to talk

at least yanks got heathcott out of it next year

[Pharmcat]

the rays have 12 picks in like the first 90

thats just ridicolous, they will be running the AL east in a few years

[Pharmcat]

even the red sox pick 4 times b4 yanks do

a stacked draft, and yanks have little picks

[moocow007]

Yankees went with the pedigree, drafting the son of former Major Leaguer Dante Bichette, aptly named Dante Bichette Jr.



http://riveraveblues.com/2011/06/2011-draft-yankees-take-dante-bichette-jr-with-51st-overall-pick-49833/

Was ranked the 108th best prospect by Baseball America...so taking him at 51? Hopefully the Yankees know something.

[Pharmcat]

Im not gonna lie, I have no idea what the yanks farm people are doing....they seemingly like to go against the conventional rankings just to prove a point, and considering how badly some of their 1st picks have failed, Im wondering if a new direction is needed

bichette in the 50s is just way too high

[Dr. Detfink]

Without a cap and 200+ Million revenue, the Yanks don't need to rely on Cashman & Levine's "scouting prowess." They can afford to f*uck up over next 10 years and STILL contend.

Baseball is a different animal. Maybe 1 of the Rays 12 picks might be a star. Maybe that star might be short lived. it's a crap shoot.

Last year every one was ragging for giving up Austin Jackson....ONE YEAR LATER...it's looking like the Yanks got the better end bringing in Curtis Granderson and teaching him how to hit lefties.

When Felix is a FA, the Yanks will somehow pull out an empty check and every one will forget about Philip Hughes. Trust me.

[moocow007]

Im not gonna lie, I have no idea what the yanks farm people are doing....they seemingly like to go against the conventional rankings just to prove a point, and considering how badly some of their 1st picks have failed, Im wondering if a new direction is needed

bichette in the 50s is just way too high

I think the next guy (pick 88) also didn't rank in the top 200 players.

The 2 HS guys (picks 3 and 4) appear to be high upside guys but also were reaches (including the wrong Hanks Yanks guy tbh).

And did they really, really, really need yet another Catching prospect (see 5th pick)?

Yeah looks like each guy were serious reaches.

[moocow007]

Without a cap and 200+ Million revenue, the Yanks don't need to rely on Cashman & Levine's "scouting prowess." They can afford to f*uck up over next 10 years and STILL contend.

Baseball is a different animal. Maybe 1 of the Rays 12 picks might be a star. Maybe that star might be short lived. it's a crap shoot.

Last year every one was ragging for giving up Austin Jackson....ONE YEAR LATER...it's looking like the Yanks got the better end bringing in Curtis Granderson and teaching him how to hit lefties.

When Felix is a FA, the Yanks will somehow pull out an empty check and every one will forget about Philip Hughes. Trust me.

Jackson really doesn't have anything to do with what they've done in this draft. People were ragging on giving up Jackson because he was a high upside, high potential, 5 tools guy that looked like he was about to blow up when the Yanks probably could have gotten Granderson for less. I mean Knick fans had problems with what they gave up for Melo and it had nothing to do with getting Melo (which just about everyone wanted) and everything to do with how much they gave up to get him.

[Pharmcat]

Without a cap and 200+ Million revenue, the Yanks don't need to rely on Cashman & Levine's "scouting prowess." They can afford to f*uck up over next 10 years and STILL contend.

Baseball is a different animal. Maybe 1 of the Rays 12 picks might be a star. Maybe that star might be short lived. it's a crap shoot.

Last year every one was ragging for giving up Austin Jackson....ONE YEAR LATER...it's looking like the Yanks got the better end bringing in Curtis Granderson and teaching him how to hit lefties.

When Felix is a FA, the Yanks will somehow pull out an empty check and every one will forget about Philip Hughes. Trust me.

sorry its a different game now

TB and TOR have put in brilliant execs who focus on the draft, and BOS is focusing on the draft AND spending money....these factors were not in play b4

i think the whole yankee philsophy needs to change from taking 'reach guys' to systematically developing the farm for the future

the dynamics of the playing field have changed and yanks need to adjust

[Pharmcat]

Im not gonna lie, I have no idea what the yanks farm people are doing....they seemingly like to go against the conventional rankings just to prove a point, and considering how badly some of their 1st picks have failed, Im wondering if a new direction is needed

bichette in the 50s is just way too high

I think the next guy (pick 88) also didn't rank in the top 200 players.

The 2 HS guys (picks 3 and 4) appear to be high upside guys but also were reaches (including the wrong Hanks Yanks guy tbh).

And did they really, really, really need yet another Catching prospect (see 5th pick)?

Yeah looks like each guy were serious reaches.

all 4 guys were reaches, and another C is not what this team needs

so Im not sure what they are doing

[Dr. Detfink]

How is it a different game now? You won't see most of these prospects for 4 yrs. MLB is like hockey, it's Rare a guy is called up in less than a couple seasons in the minors. I used Austin Jackson as an example because people went ape crazy when the Yanks gave up home grown youth for a 28yr old center fielder. How's that after a yr? League catches up.

Again, Yankee fans are blessed to have some of the greatest players. Ask the Royals, how's all those draft picks for the last 20 years working out?

[j127]

Weren't some of the Yankees' greatest players also drafted by the team? Off the top of my head, Posada and Jeter?

[moocow007]

Weren't some of the Yankees' greatest players also drafted by the team? Off the top of my head, Posada and Jeter?

I believe most of the top Yankee players of the recent era was drafted by Gene Michaels, generally considered one of the best judgers of talent ever. Not sure the current group (Oppenheimer's in charge right?) necessarily are at the same level. That said, the Yankees do have one of the better farm systems in the majors so you have to give the current group credit and hope they they do know what they are doing I guess. Bichette has pedigree and that counts since more often than not guys that have been around major league baseball for their entire life, that have the right genes, that have lived and breathed that mindset tend to turn out well. Same goes for Dion James' son which I believe the Yanks took in a later round. But if the belief is that Bichette would have been around with the next pick (probably) then they did essentially waste a pick regardless of how well Bichette does (not like he's going to be any different had he been drafted in the 2nd round instead of the sandwich round right?).

[moocow007]

Here's a couple of blurbs about a couple of the guys the Yanks picked in the later rounds. Yank swith a good number of positional players (luckily only one of which was a catcher lol). Baseball America projected Justin James as possibly going as high as the 3rd round apparently and the Yankees got him at 13. Raw, 5 tools player with the genes.

13th round: Justin James, OF, Sacramento City College

The son of 11-year major leaguer Dion James, Sacramento CC outfielder Justin James is making a name for himself on the diamond. At Kennedy High in Sacramento, James was mainly known for his talent on the basketball court, once scoring 27 points in the fourth quarter of a game to help his team overcome a 20-point deficit. He didn't play baseball his senior year of high school and came to Sac City as a forward for the basketball team. A change of heart led him back to the baseball field, where he is clearly raw but shows five-tool potential. James is 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds and is still an above-average runner. Like his father, he hits from the left side of the plate, and he shows raw power in batting practice, even to the opposite field. Because of his frame, speed and raw power potential, James will stand out in predraft workouts and could go as high as the third round.

14th round: William "Rookie" Davis, RHP, Dixon (N.C.) High School

Rookie Davis is an ox, standing at 6-foot-4, 235 pounds, and as a first baseman he offers huge raw power. Most teams prefer him as a righthander, though, with an 89-92 mph fastball that can sit 90-91. His curveball has some shape to it and can be an average pitch at times. Davis enjoys hitting, but righthanded-hitting first baseman have to be exceptional. If he doesn't sign, Davis could play both ways at East Carolina.

[Pharmcat]

its not just picking the players, its developing them propery

phil, joba have failed, whereas the ones traded let go (clippard, melancon, kennedy) have found niches for themselves in the game...i think they n eed to look at the development aspect also

[bishnykfan]

It's hard to say that Phil and Joba failed. Joba was developing into a very reliable late inning reliever this year and has shown dominant stretches. Phil won 18 games last year at age 24. Both pitchers got hurt this year, but are both still young enough to not give up on. To say they have failed while Clippard, playing in Washington, Melancon in Houston, or Kennedy in Arizona have been successful is pretty asinine.

[PR07]

I wouldn't say they failed on Melancon and Kennedy, they traded them both for one great player in Granderson and another solid pro in Berkman.