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Post#21 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 3, 2007 6:59 pm

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Cano is in the basepath, what is cheap about it? Clean, maybe not so much. But the rule you're taught is if someone is in the basepath, you have the legal right to knock them over, they are impeding your progress. If you go out of the basepath, that is another story, that is just being a dick. You get in the way, you have to be ready to get tagged. Cano could have stood a step out of the basepath, reached out to tag Lowell, and then make the flip to first. It happens every day in baseball. If Lowell tries to avoid the tag, he's out of the basepaths and he's out.

If that was Esteban German and we were playing the Royals, it never would have happened. It was obvious retaliation for the plunkings on Friday. But Lowell did it WITHIN THE RULES. This is what is wrong with baseball. People piss and moan about people doing things that upset other, A-Rod's "Mine", for example. That happens all the time, so many guys have come out recently and said it happens constantly. But it was a huge deal because it was A-Rod and everyone thinks he's a jerk. If you can get a leg up doing something that might not be entirely clean but is within the rule book, you do it. I'm sorry if I object to the pansification of my favorite sport. mahalo
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impeding progress? Lowell stopped....now if he was running to 2nd and then hit Cano, i would have no problems with it....watch the replay, he stops, take a step backward, and just tackles Cano......had he continued to run and done it, it wouldve been ok....how can Cano be impeding his progress when Lowell stopped? complete cheap play by Lowell, one if I was the manager, would make sure he gets plunked for the next time he was up at bat
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Post#22 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:03 pm

exactly run through and I have no problem, this fool stops locks and loads while Tim McCarver and Joe or whatever the hell his name is Buck tells us this is a clean play, then they go on to show 10 replays of Alex's "plays" to minimize it, please that was a cheap shot and it was BUSH
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Post#23 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:05 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote:exactly run through and I have no problem, this fool stops locks and loads while Tim McCarver and Joe or whatever the hell his name is Buck tells us this is a clean play, then they go on to show 10 replays of Alex's "plays" to minimize it, please that was a cheap shot and it was BUSH



btw, i wish someone wouldve challenged him on the field.....show some fiesty attitude that we wont stand for crap like that, after all, the players do know TOrre isnt gonna defend them :roll:
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Post#24 » by Chach » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:18 pm

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impeding progress? Lowell stopped....now if he was running to 2nd and then hit Cano, i would have no problems with it....watch the replay, he stops, take a step backward, and just tackles Cano......had he continued to run and done it, it wouldve been ok....how can Cano be impeding his progress when Lowell stopped? complete cheap play by Lowell, one if I was the manager, would make sure he gets plunked for the next time he was up at bat


Because he's trying to break up a double play. He stops and Cano waits for him and the runner is safe at first. Lowell realizes that he can wait Cano out to get the double play so he's going to go through him to break up the double play. It's not cheap, it's legal and Cano is still in his way. It's just like going in hard at second to break up a double play.

The reason A-Rod's play is considered dirty is because he was already out when he shoves an elbow into Pedroia. mahalo
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Post#25 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:18 pm

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btw, i wish someone wouldve challenged him on the field.....show some fiesty attitude that we wont stand for crap like that, after all, the players do know TOrre isnt gonna defend them :roll:


well if Alex does it fox roasts him, we know Jetes won't do it, Minky and Georgy are on their walk year, Cano doesn't want to get sent down , Abreu is a *ussy, Melky doesn't want to get labeled, Matsui is in LALA land. Alot of bad combo there and I am completely disgusted w/ Joe Torre flip floppin' on Alex and not defending CAno at all
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Post#26 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:21 pm

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Because he's trying to break up a double play. He stops and Cano waits for him and the runner is safe at first. Lowell realizes that he can wait Cano out to get the double play so he's going to go through him to break up the double play. It's not cheap, it's legal and Cano is still in his way. It's just like going in hard at second to break up a double play.

The reason A-Rod's play is considered dirty is because he was already out when he shoves an elbow into Pedroia.


it was CHEAP and BUSH LEAGUE mahalo
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Post#27 » by Chach » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:29 pm

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it was CHEAP and BUSH LEAGUE mahalo
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Yeah, GREAT way to make your POINT known, by using CAPS instead of a logical ARGUMENT. mahalo
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Post#28 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:31 pm

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Because he's trying to break up a double play. He stops and Cano waits for him and the runner is safe at first. Lowell realizes that he can wait Cano out to get the double play so he's going to go through him to break up the double play. It's not cheap, it's legal and Cano is still in his way. It's just like going in hard at second to break up a double play.

The reason A-Rod's play is considered dirty is because he was already out when he shoves an elbow into Pedroia. mahalo
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tat totally negates your "impeding progress theory"

no, its not like going in hard to 2nd, there, you are actually moving and trying to break it up....again, I have no problem with it if Lowell did it while he was running to 2nd, watch it again, Lowell stops, takes a step back, and then just tries to level Cano....really a cheap play....and for the record, Im more mad at Torre for throwing Cano under the bus than i am about the play
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Post#29 » by AirPaden » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:35 pm

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Cano: Lowell threw an elbow

BY ED PRICE
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BOSTON -- Less than two weeks ago, Dustin Pedroia accused Alex Rodriguez of a cheap shot.

Now the elbows and words are flying in opposite directions.

After being upended by Boston's Mike Lowell yesterday on a fourth-inning double play, Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano said Lowell's actions were "of course" worse than Rodriguez's.

"I don't think it's a fair play," Cano said. "They made a big deal of what A-Rod did the other day. He didn't throw an elbow.

"Of course (this was worse). He stopped and he threw an elbow."

Cano had fielded a roller from Jason Varitek closer to first base than second. So he stopped to tag Lowell. And despite being flipped, Cano was able to complete the double play.

"He threw an elbow at me but I didn't say anything to him," Cano said.

Yankees manager Joe Torre was less critical.

"You're in the (base)line, you're fair game," Torre said. "It was hard baseball. There was nothing dirty."

Pedroia, the Boston second baseman, said Rodriguez threw an elbow at him while breaking up a double play on May 22.


thanks for the support Joe. Now imo it was BUSH. Your caught in a rundown and you extend your hands to tackle the 2B ? where have we seen that ?, but it's nice to see FOXSNESN stick up for another guy, had that been Alex Rodriguez well we all know what would follow.
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At the end of the play Lowell clearly threw an elbow. I say just get them back when we get a chance. They are proving to be a pretty dirty team.
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Post#30 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:36 pm

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Yeah, GREAT way to make your POINT known, by using CAPS instead of a logical ARGUMENT. mahalo
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all your oing is dismissing it.

since when as baseball runners we are told to elbow, or tackle the rundown ? Lowell stops and loads to hit Cano, don't tell me that's not bush, but I understand you not being a Yankees fan why you would object.

So let me tell my little cousin hey Jeremy if this ever happens to you stop and tackle him down, it's allowed. I wonder how the other dugout would react god forbid the other kid falls on his arm just trying to make a tag and not bracing himself for a tackle but it's ok because it's allowed.mahalo
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Post#31 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 3, 2007 7:38 pm

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well if Alex does it fox roasts him, we know Jetes won't do it, Minky and Georgy are on their walk year, Cano doesn't want to get sent down , Abreu is a *ussy, Melky doesn't want to get labeled, Matsui is in LALA land. Alot of bad combo there and I am completely disgusted w/ Joe Torre flip floppin' on Alex and not defending CAno at all


all i know is if I was the pitcher, i wouldve plunked him in the next at bat of his

but thats the thing with these Yanks, they never fight back....whats the # of hit batsmen of the Yanks by Red Sox pitchers when compared to the # of hit Red Sox batsmen by the Yanks pitcher? they brought it up on Sportscenter the other night...its disproportionate....this is why i love Proctor
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Post#32 » by Chach » Sun Jun 3, 2007 8:04 pm

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Well I'm going to tell my kid to knock over your kid if he's in the basepath so you better tell little Jeremy to step out of the base path or brace himself when he falls.

Yeah Kandi, because hitting a guy near the head is oh so macho. mahalo
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Post#33 » by Pharmcat » Sun Jun 3, 2007 8:13 pm

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Well I'm going to tell my kid to knock over your kid if he's in the basepath so you better tell little Jeremy to step out of the base path or brace himself when he falls.

Yeah Kandi, because hitting a guy near the head is oh so macho. mahalo
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that wasnt intentional, he got underneath the thing, and no, i dont support head hunting, but i totally support standing up for your players...which the Yanks in the last few years havent been doing.....Proctor will, which i like
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Post#34 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 4, 2007 2:32 am

all this bush league stuff is getting ridiculus
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Post#35 » by Rondo_Fan » Mon Jun 4, 2007 2:43 am

Cause: Yankee team desperate for a win comes into Boston. Manager contrives reason to get thrown out in seventh. Pitchers, trying to show that they are still playing with fire and passion, plunk Boston batters, including Mike Lowell and Kevin Youkilis.

Effect: Lowell runs over Cano on basepaths next day.

Secondary Effect: Yankee fans, apparently not realizing that they have already thrown at Lowell in this series, starting all of this, call for pitchers to throw at Lowell.

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I hope this helps.
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Post#36 » by APerna » Mon Jun 4, 2007 3:55 am

Agreed...I love Cano.
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Post#37 » by cmaff051 » Mon Jun 4, 2007 4:33 am

Lowell got owned at the end of this series and got what was coming to him... that's the most important thing. He looked foolish against Mo.

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