why is Hammel owning us?

cmaff051 · Post #21 » by **cmaff051** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 1:27 am

craig01 wrote:Sonnanstine, Jackson, Kazmir, and Shields are likely to have many strong years ahead of them. Each of them struggles with command, or a bad inning, but all of them are gaining confidence and better command rapidly.

The oldest starter is 24 or 25.

All of them have live arms, are durable, and are still learning how to pitch.

Hammel doesn't have the same outlook IMO.

All of this on a 23 million dollar payroll.

Here's hoping to a good pennant race again.

Jackson has an electric arm. Shields and Kasmir are terrific. But Sonnastine and Hammel aren't. They are the definition of mediocre and have absolutely no future at the major league level as starters. I wouldn't have been pissed if we were shut down by Edwin Jackson, the kid has terrific stuff. Oddly, he is the only guy we whacked around. What I was pissed about is being shut down by a guy with such meager stuff (sonnastine) and a guy who is pretty much a reliever (hammel). No excuse for that. I acknowledge that even the worst of pitchers pitch games once in a while, but it shouldn't happen in a Yankee pennant race.

And the Devil Rays have lots of offensive talent.

xxrainnn · Post #22 » by **xxrainnn** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 1:31 am

Pretty effin sad. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Mariners rape us even though they're coming in with a 9 game losing streak.

TKF · Post #23 » by **TKF** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 2:01 pm

The division is a wrap. Boston is going to win it, not because they are better, but because we got off to such a horrendous start. We will win the wild card for sure, I much rather have the division tho.... either way we will be tough to beat if hughes can pitch like we know he can...

TKF · Post #24 » by **TKF** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 2:04 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Jackson has an electric arm. Shields and Kasmir are terrific. But Sonnastine and Hammel aren't. They are the definition of mediocre and have absolutely no future at the major league level as starters. I wouldn't have been pissed if we were shut down by Edwin Jackson, the kid has terrific stuff. Oddly, he is the only guy we whacked around. What I was pissed about is being shut down by a guy with such meager stuff (sonnastine) and a guy who is pretty much a reliever (hammel). No excuse for that. I acknowledge that even the worst of pitchers pitch games once in a while, but it shouldn't happen in a Yankee pennant race.

And the Devil Rays have lots of offensive talent.

great post, and I agree, kazmir and shields are real nice pitchers and the rays can hit, they are missing rocco baldeli who was out all year with a hamstring injury... LOL.. go figure.. anyway the other two pitchers sonnastine and hammel have no business shutting us down..... offensively the rays have talent, carl crawford is a beast..

DakkaFromNyc · Post #25 » by **DakkaFromNyc** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 6:43 pm

I think teh Yanks put their guard down durin this series

cmaff051 · Post #26 » by **cmaff051** » Mon Sep 3, 2007 8:35 pm

DakkaFromNyc wrote:I think teh Yanks put their guard down durin this series

Our maybe our starting pitching sucks right now. Like it has all year.

34Celtic · Post #27 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 8:35 pm

It was real weird to be at this game right next to the DRays family section. I didn't think there were that many DRay fans in the entire country let alone one building. A couple smoking girls I must say.