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gooGD wrote:You know, with all the farnsgarbage/proctor trade talk ill throw something "out" there. I know i will catch a ton of flack for this...
As a mets fan, I would entertain the idea of parting with one of our great prospects for someone like proctor, but I would be weary of parting with our OF prospects- pitching wise, I might listen
for the right price, I *might even take in farnsworth, but it would have to be for a low/aged prospect.
Ken Rosenthal has the latest on Mark Teixeira, who is now 50/50 to be dealt according to one source of his.
Rosenthal describes the scene as the Braves and Angels at the forefront, with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Giants lingering. Evan Grant adds the Dodgers to the mix. He also suggests the Rangers package Joaquin Benoit with Teixeira to get the best possible player. Interestingly, the Yanks might be after Adam Dunn as another first base option. They may have to focus on Dunn, because Jon Daniels is demanding Joba Chamberlain for Teixeira.
Yankees Interested In Garland, Thornton
According to George King of the New York Post, the White Sox have scouts watching the Single-A Tampa Yankees. Outfielders Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata are the big names from that team, far as I can tell.
Which White Sox players interest the Yankees? They've already had a go with Javier Vazquez and Jose Contreras, which leaves Jon Garland. It seems the Yanks might want lefty reliever Matt Thornton as well, according to King. Thornton had a breakout last year by developing decent control, but he's regressed this season. His strikeout rate is down as well. Rather than go year-to-year with Thornton the Sox decided to lock him in cheaply for 2007-09.
Despite some early indications to the contrary, it's really starting to look like Garland is in play. The Yankees won't give up Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes for Garland. Given Chicago's desire for MLB-ready players, I wonder if the Yankees would surrender Robinson Cano. Going after A ball players, no matter how promising, doesn't seem like Kenny Williams' style.
PacersRule07 wrote:Rumors:Ken Rosenthal has the latest on Mark Teixeira, who is now 50/50 to be dealt according to one source of his.
Rosenthal describes the scene as the Braves and Angels at the forefront, with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Giants lingering. Evan Grant adds the Dodgers to the mix. He also suggests the Rangers package Joaquin Benoit with Teixeira to get the best possible player. Interestingly, the Yanks might be after Adam Dunn as another first base option. They may have to focus on Dunn, because Jon Daniels is demanding Joba Chamberlain for Teixeira.Yankees Interested In Garland, Thornton
According to George King of the New York Post, the White Sox have scouts watching the Single-A Tampa Yankees. Outfielders Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata are the big names from that team, far as I can tell.
Which White Sox players interest the Yankees? They've already had a go with Javier Vazquez and Jose Contreras, which leaves Jon Garland. It seems the Yanks might want lefty reliever Matt Thornton as well, according to King. Thornton had a breakout last year by developing decent control, but he's regressed this season. His strikeout rate is down as well. Rather than go year-to-year with Thornton the Sox decided to lock him in cheaply for 2007-09.
Despite some early indications to the contrary, it's really starting to look like Garland is in play. The Yankees won't give up Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes for Garland. Given Chicago's desire for MLB-ready players, I wonder if the Yankees would surrender Robinson Cano. Going after A ball players, no matter how promising, doesn't seem like Kenny Williams' style.
nykgeneralmanager wrote:Our pitching looks good enough for the stretch run and even next year that Garland shouldn't be considered, at least not for somebody like Cano, Tabata, or Jackson. You don't trade that type of talent for a #3 starter (who may be our #5 in two years if our prospects work out).
The only trade I'd consider at this point is one that dumps Moose or lands a reliever. Leave the farm system alone, we don't need Tex right now.
PacersRule07 wrote:I doubt we'll get much of anything of value for Mussina if we trade him. He has more value to us than other teams because there still is a chance that he can turn things around a bit. I would trade him though if we somehow traded for Garland or whoever just to avoid a clubhouse problem and a jam of starters.
I'm not thrilled with the idea of trading for Garland either. He's a solid starter, but I don't see him as more than a solid #3 starter, and we have enough of those as is. There is no chance I trade Cano either, we need to start finding longterm answers at our positions, and he's one already. Ditto for Tabata and not Jackson either...at least not for Garland anyways.
I really think Teixeira would be a great fit here. This team needs another power bat and has been looking for a longterm answer at 1B for many years. He's a Top 5 1B in the MLB offensively, and he's one of the best fielders as well with a couple of Gold Glove awards to his name. I think there is a possible trade with Teixeira and Benoit that would probably kill two birds with one stone. I wouldn't trade Joba though, I'd try to talk them down to Kennedy and maybe two of our better but not elite prospects. Texas is at a disadvantage because they aren't going to get equal value for Teixeira at this point. His contract expires soon and will bolt, and it's obvious that they've lost a lot of leverage because of it.
Still, there is no guarantee that Texiera will ever be a Yankee without a trade, so I would offer an attractive but not full value package for him right now. We talked Philly down last year in the Abreu deal, and I'm confident we'll be able to talk Texas down too if we want Tex bad enough.
Jugs wrote: I saw two buttholes
studcrackers wrote:and the rangers would be stupid to do it much like the phillies were stupid to do that abreu trade. they were suckered into take quantity over quality. we've already been **** over by the arod trade with you guys (one of the 5 worst trades of the past 5 years) if we deal with you guys i leave with nothing less than chamberlain or hughes.
you dont like it dont trade with us. at least thats the stance id take on trading with you, its almost like the yanks pressure teams into taking less than a players value.
Jugs wrote: I saw two buttholes
studcrackers wrote:well then thats fine by me, ive been under the impression for about a week and a half now that the rangers wont trade him now.
whats pissing me off though is we have tons of trade targets and we havent made a deal yet when we can turn our farm system into the top 15. we have great talent in A ball and some are starting to get promoted but we're very weak in the upper levels.
anyone willing to do a sosa for joba? he's great against lefties.
Jugs wrote: I saw two buttholes
Jugs wrote: I saw two buttholes
studcrackers wrote:yea, the talk is gagne might want to re-up in texas and i think he's only dealt to a place he can be a closer b/c he has a finished games incentive that can net him more money.
otsuka's hurt right now but he still has arbitration years til either 2008 or 2009
people think jon daniels might be gunshy b/c of questionable trades in the past. everyone kills him for the chris young/adrian gonzalez for adam eaton and aki otsuka trade. i personally dont think he'd have much success had he stayed in the AL in OUR ballpark no less.
plus people think he lost on the carlos lee trade last year. sure coco cordero is doing great but when he pitched in texas he blew 2 saves. what people dont know is it netted us 2 draft picks which will help us.
