Texas @ Yankee Stadium - Game 3

[34Celtic]

when the F did I say Linden and Melky would start ?

Melky would get more time to progress while Linden can be a 4th OF option , dammit 34C stop misquoting what I say.

Either one of those guys starting is a bad idea.

I'd like Ichiro, but at a reasonable price. But he's unlikely to get anything reasonable in a market like this, and he's going to get money he doesn't deserve. We don't need another overpaid OF who is leaving his prime when we sign them. I'd prefer a stopgap like Eric Byrnes.

Ichiro would probably cost too much and he would want too many years. Byrnes is an intriguing choice to be a guy to sign for 1-2 yr deal to hold that spot for Jose.

Eric Byrnes is my favorite player.

[cmaff051]

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I understand what tools are. I've never heard the word tweener in baseball before but ok, I get where youre coming from. Look, you're not understanding where I am coming from. If you go to the SF trade discussion, everyone was saying Melky and Linden would be viable 3rd and 4th OF's for us. Reggie and I were the only ones shooting that down. I'm just saying, before you discount him as a possible starting outfielder down the line, remember he has the potential to hit around .320 in the majors. If you hit .320 you have a lineup spot on some ballclub, doesn't matter if you hit 10 HR's a year. Am I saying he is going to be a great outfielder? No, do I think he has the POTENTIAL TO BE A GOOD ONE? Yes.

Now let me say again that I am not trying to counter what you are saying. Go look at the SF Giants trade thread and you will realize what I am saying

For the record, I don't want Linden on this team.

But how in the hell does Melky have the potential to hit .320? Where did you get this from? I could say that Matsui has the potential to hit .320, but he's never done it. I could say that Posada has the potential to hit .320, but he's never done it.

Melky does not have the potential to hit .320. He doesn't drive the ball well enough and doesn't hit the ball consistently the other way well enough. In no way is he a career .320 hitter.

[Pharmcat]

why is Melky getting so much airtime?

a 4th OF shouldnt be talked about this that much


a more pressing concern is why our "ace" has an ERA in the 5s

[Pharmcat]

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Come on Kandi, it just wasn't his night.

He just pitched a 8 inning 2 hitter... give me a break.

11 hits in 6.1 innings?

that makes it what, 26 hits in his 3 losses


clearly, an "ace" would not be doing this

like i said, can you trust a some1 who has one good pitch that, if it gets left high, its gonna get crushed out of NYC?

this guy isnt ace material

[cmaff051]

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11 hits in 6.1 innings?

that makes it what, 26 hits in his 3 losses


clearly, an "ace" would not be doing this

like i said, can you trust a some1 who has one good pitch that, if it gets left high, its gonna get crushed out of NYC?

this guy isnt ace material

Of course he isn't ace material. But he's perfect for this team because he goes deep into games and is economical with his pitches. And if you watched him last year, he gave up tons of hits that year too. 233 hits in 216 innings. That is what you are going to get from Wang.

Wang isn't an ace, but he can take usdeep into games and win us lots of games.

[Pharmcat]

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Of course he isn't ace material. But he's perfect for this team because he goes deep into games and is economical with his pitches. And if you watched him last year, he gave up tons of hits that year too. 233 hits in 216 innings. That is what you are going to get from Wang.

Wang isn't an ace, but he can take up deep into games and be a decent pitcher.

yea goes deep into games while giving up 7ER

[ReggieFULLeffect]

11 hits in 6.1 innings?

that makes it what, 26 hits in his 3 losses


clearly, an "ace" would not be doing this

like i said, can you trust a some1 who has one good pitch that, if it gets left high, its gonna get crushed out of NYC?

this guy isnt ace material

I think this is a bit too early to be throwing the guy under the bus. He just came off of a great start and he should've gotten out of the inning with the run-down. Since when does a 19-game winner get given up on after 5 starts. Give the dude a chance.

[Pharmcat]

11 hits in 6.1 innings?

that makes it what, 26 hits in his 3 losses


clearly, an "ace" would not be doing this

like i said, can you trust a some1 who has one good pitch that, if it gets left high, its gonna get crushed out of NYC?

this guy isnt ace material

I think this is a bit too early to be throwing the guy under the bus. He just came off of a great start and he should've gotten out of the inning with the run-down. Since when does a 19-game winner get given up on after 5 starts. Give the dude a chance.

thats what im saying, his last year was a fluke, just like small winning 10 games...this guy isnt anything special

[cmaff051]

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yea goes deep into games while giving up 7ER

How many times has he given up 7 ER this year?

How many innings has he averaged this year?

[34Celtic]

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thats what im saying, his last year was a fluke, just like small winning 10 games...this guy isnt anything special

Dude a guy with a 94 mph sinker that is that heavy isnt a fluke. Get real

[34Celtic]

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For the record, I don't want Linden on this team.

But how in the hell does Melky have the potential to hit .320? Where did you get this from? I could say that Matsui has the potential to hit .320, but he's never done it. I could say that Posada has the potential to hit .320, but he's never done it.

Melky does not have the potential to hit .320. He doesn't drive the ball well enough and doesn't hit the ball consistently the other way well enough. In no way is he a career .320 hitter.

Look, I was trying to make a point. Last year I thought he had the potential to someday hit .320. Right now, I don't know. You're right with your analysis of him, it just seemed last year his bat was through the zone more. For the record, Linden sucks

[cmaff051]

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thats what im saying, his last year was a fluke, just like small winning 10 games...this guy isnt anything special

Comparing Wang to a journeyman junkballer just shows your (lack of) knowledge of baseball.

[34Celtic]

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Melky's arm is not going to improve. He is what he is, he's been practing for years in both the minors and the majors.

We have nobody in our outfield who could be considered a plus outfielder.

This was what we were arguing about before. Baseball players peak at an average age of 28. Not 22. To say Melky has shown us his full ability would not be right to say. He will get better, how much better...I dont know. Last year I thought he could someday hit .315-.320......now, with the way he is playing this year I am starting to doubt myself
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[cmaff051]

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This was what we were arguing about before. Baseball players peak at an average age of 28. Not 22. To say Melky has shown us his full ability would not be right to say. He will get better, how much better...I dont know. Last year I thought he could someday hit .315-.320......now, with the way he is playing this year I am starting to doubt myself
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Cano is a possible career .320 hitter because he has such a smooth swing through the strike zone and can hit extra base hits easily with that level swing.

I just don't see the same thing with Melky. His mechanics are all screwed up, he doesn't drive the ball nearly as much as Cano (not even close), and he just doesn't have the projectable frame that Cano has.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Damn, Wag got wacked.

[throwbackewing33]

Wow been busy packing my **** to move and we got demolished! Im still waiting for us to go on a serious winning streak. Why are we still arguing this stupid melky and Abreu trade! We dont need a starter, we need a setup man.

[KnickTerp12]

Would you rather have RJ as our 4/5th starter or Vizcaino as our guy that sucks at pitching

[Pharmcat]

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Dude a guy with a 94 mph sinker that is that heavy isnt a fluke. Get real

which if left in the zone gets clobbered out of the park

thanks for just making my point

[Pharmcat]

Would you rather have RJ as our 4/5th starter or Vizcaino as our guy that sucks at pitching

I thought Viscaino was serviceable?

this guy is terrible, guess he fits in with the rest of the Yanks pitching staff

[Pharmcat]

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Comparing Wang to a journeyman junkballer just shows your (lack of) knowledge of baseball.

im not comparing their "stuff", more of their "flukiness"