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Post#621 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:59 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:has angel reyes progressed well at all?


Nope. He is on the DL as his command is still garbage.
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Post#622 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:00 am

Yeah, regressed would be a better choice of words
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Post#623 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:01 am

so we have no decent left hander SP prospects?
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Post#624 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:05 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:so we have no decent left hander SP prospects?


We have Michael Dunn in Charleston, but that's about it. He isn't very good either, so it's slim pickings.
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Post#625 » by Jitpal » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:06 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:so we have no decent left hander SP prospects?

Welcome to why I was saying we should deal for Lowry. A 3/4 left-handed starting pitcher who has very good numbers against AL teams. Would have been cheap at the time too. -Jitpal
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Post#626 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:07 am

Jitpal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Welcome to why I was saying we should deal for Lowry. A 3/4 left-handed starting pitcher who has very good numbers against AL teams. Would have been cheap at the time too. -Jitpal


If we absolutely needed to have a lefty, I would prefer them to be good. Lowry isn't. He puts too many men on base and doesn't miss enough bats.

I'd rather have quality righthanders then lefthanders for the sake of it.
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Post#627 » by bryant2011 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:37 am

Thanks for the insight.
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Post#628 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:38 am

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If we absolutely needed to have a lefty, I would prefer them to be good. Lowry isn't. He puts too many men on base and doesn't miss enough bats.

I'd rather have quality righthanders then lefthanders for the sake of it.

I completely agree. Why have a lefty just to say we have one? Sure a good lefty is something every team would kill to have, but there are only a handful in baseball. Not having one is no big deal as long as your righties are good.
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Post#629 » by bryant2011 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:06 pm

Lowry's WHIP is way too high to ever succeed in the AL especially the AL East IMO.

I sent this question to Keith Law when he was chatting from 1-3PM on ESPN.com today but he never answered it so I will ask you'll:

Do you guys seeing Christian Garcia ever regaining the form to become a stud starting pitching prospect or his only chance to make it to the majors is by becoming a relief pitcher? Also, do you'll see Humberto coming back next year as a starter or going straight to the pen? Do you think he will still have that #1-#2 type stuff?
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Post#630 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:15 pm

bryant2011 wrote:Lowry's WHIP is way too high to ever succeed in the AL especially the AL East IMO.

I sent this question to Keith Law when he was chatting from 1-3PM on ESPN.com today but he never answered it so I will ask you'll:

Do you guys seeing Christian Garcia ever regaining the form to become a stud starting pitching prospect or his only chance to make it to the majors is by becoming a relief pitcher? Also, do you'll see Humberto coming back next year as a starter or going straight to the pen? Do you think he will still have that #1-#2 type stuff?


It all depends on how he comes back from TJ Surgery. The success rate is very good on that surgery though and he is still very young. His work ethic has been called into question and that's a big red flag for me though. I think the Yankees will give him every chance to remain a starter, and he will stick there.

I think the Yankees will give Sanchez a chance to be a starter, but ultimately I think he'll end in the bullpen.
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Post#631 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:31 pm

bryant2011 wrote:Lowry's WHIP is way too high to ever succeed in the AL especially the AL East IMO.

I sent this question to Keith Law when he was chatting from 1-3PM on ESPN.com today but he never answered it so I will ask you'll:

Do you guys seeing Christian Garcia ever regaining the form to become a stud starting pitching prospect or his only chance to make it to the majors is by becoming a relief pitcher? Also, do you'll see Humberto coming back next year as a starter or going straight to the pen? Do you think he will still have that #1-#2 type stuff?

Garcia had so much potential before he went down and tommy john surgery has become less of a big deal because many pitchers come back even better. Because of those two things, I would say that he still has to be watched closely as a prospect. He throws pretty hard and his curve is even better than Hughes' according to most people who have seen him. So while the likelyhood of him reaching his potential may drop, I don't think his actual ceiling should. He's got an incredible arm.

As cmaff said, I'd worry more about Garcia's desire to reach his ability than his actual ability after the surgery.
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Post#632 » by rappa » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:29 pm

finally im back in the forum i belong haha i have been wonderign where nykgenman and cmaff and kandi have gone, and now i realized that you all come here instead of the knicks board....well dont ask why but i was in scranton wilks barre over the past 2 days visiting a friend and watching our AAA team. As some of you may remember, I'm a diehard yankee fan who loves the minor leagues and well ive got one word to describe the past 2 games, WOW.

Having seen Hughes pitch in person 3 times before this, twice at trenton, once at yankee stadium, theres just not much more praise i can possibly give him because hes just unbelievable. He makes hitters just seem helpless at the plate with his moxy, command and stuff. He was like a man amongst boys the other night vs louisville. After inning 3 he was dominant, even when they got the bases loaded no outs, he was unhittable. The stadium gun had him as high as 95 but he def sat 91-94 and his changeup and curveball were both dominant pitches. Hopefully they he takes over for igawa asap cause he's just so much better its unbelievable...

As for Joba Chamberlain, I met him when I visited nebraska for baseball he showed me around campus, and my parents thought the world of him. He was laid back and very funny and when the yanks drafted him i knew big things to come, especially after he dominated the hawaii league. If he was on ANY other team, JOBA would most likely be in the majors. His fastball is so live that even though its 95-98 consistentl, it just EXPLODES to the plate just like Alan Horne, who ive seen pitch twice this year. Fastball alone hes a stud but his slider is just filthy. It comes in at like 88 from the gun i saw behind a scout and its so tight that the hitters just can't put a good swing on it. He threw a few very good changeups to set up some hitters with the fastball.

Joba and Hughes are easily the best 1-2 pitching combo in the whole league, combine them with other studs soon to be comin to the bronx Alan Horne and Ian Kennedy and our rotation + Wang is going to be set for years, and hopefully it will lead to another dynasty...
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Post#633 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:58 pm

Great report, thanks for the info.

I just want to say something about your last point. People don't realize that you can go back into the entire history of the Yankees, and you will not find a young pitching combination such as Hughes and Chamberlain coming through the system at once. And forget the Yankees for one second, you'd be hard pressed to find it for too many other teams either. Because it is happening in front of our eyes right now, some people are hesitant to realize how great this can be for the next 10-15 years should everything go right for these two.
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Post#634 » by bryant2011 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:23 pm

Every year I am usually excited about the trading deadline but this year I just want it to come and pass as quietly as possible.
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Post#635 » by cmaff051 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:07 am

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Having seen Hughes pitch in person 3 times before this, twice at trenton, once at yankee stadium, theres just not much more praise i can possibly give him because hes just unbelievable. He makes hitters just seem helpless at the plate with his moxy, command and stuff. He was like a man amongst boys the other night vs louisville. After inning 3 he was dominant, even when they got the bases loaded no outs, he was unhittable. The stadium gun had him as high as 95 but he def sat 91-94 and his changeup and curveball were both dominant pitches. Hopefully they he takes over for igawa asap cause he's just so much better its unbelievable...


He is definitely one of the most impressive young pitchers I have seen. I feel pretty confident he'll be our future ace if he stays healthy. I love the development of his changeup, that is the pitch that is going to put him over the top.

As for Joba Chamberlain, I met him when I visited nebraska for baseball he showed me around campus, and my parents thought the world of him. He was laid back and very funny and when the yanks drafted him i knew big things to come, especially after he dominated the hawaii league.

Joba is going to be a reporter's dream and a fan favorite in the Bronx... he has that kind of personality.

If he was on ANY other team, JOBA would most likely be in the majors.

I dunno... he was just drafted last year. The Yankees have moved him quick too.

His fastball is so live that even though its 95-98 consistentl, it just EXPLODES to the plate just like Alan Horne, who ive seen pitch twice this year.

What did you think of Alan Horne?

Joba and Hughes are easily the best 1-2 pitching combo in the whole league, combine them with other studs soon to be comin to the bronx Alan Horne and Ian Kennedy and our rotation + Wang is going to be set for years, and hopefully it will lead to another dynasty...


I don't think all of them will pan out but I have high hopes for Hughes, Joba and Kennedy...
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Post#636 » by bryant2011 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:16 am

Hey guys whats up with this Tim Dennehy kid in the GCL? Pitched another strong game tonight and in his last 21IP he has given up 3 earned runs (all in 1 appearance). 4-1 3.09 ERA is a lefty, turning 21 in September, and, what stuck out to me and which is why I am writing this, is his 5.22 GO/AO ratio in 23.1IP and a .214 AVG against. Anyone have a profile on him? Is he some up and coming riser or is this just a fluke?
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Post#637 » by cmaff051 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:25 am

bryant2011 wrote:Hey guys whats up with this Tim Dennehy kid in the GCL? Pitched another strong game tonight and in his last 21IP he has given up 3 earned runs (all in 1 appearance). 4-1 3.09 ERA is a lefty, turning 21 in September, and, what stuck out to me and which is why I am writing this, is his 5.22 GO/AO ratio in 23.1IP and a .214 AVG against. Anyone have a profile on him? Is he some up and coming riser or is this just a fluke?


Tim Dennehy is one our draft and follows from this year..don't know much about him really. 21 is a little too old for the GCL, I think we will know more when he gets moved up to Charleston or Tampa.
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Post#638 » by nykgeneralmanager » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:27 am

bryant2011 wrote:Hey guys whats up with this Tim Dennehy kid in the GCL? Pitched another strong game tonight and in his last 21IP he has given up 3 earned runs (all in 1 appearance). 4-1 3.09 ERA is a lefty, turning 21 in September, and, what stuck out to me and which is why I am writing this, is his 5.22 GO/AO ratio in 23.1IP and a .214 AVG against. Anyone have a profile on him? Is he some up and coming riser or is this just a fluke?

He was a draft and follow guy was picked in the 26th round last year. His fastball is in the low 90s, and he throws a curve and change.

I wouldn't say he is a fluke, but nobody is going to take a 21 year old in rookie ball seriously. If he was doing this 3 levels higher, such as high-A Tampa, maybe people would take notice. Right now it's nothing to really get excited about, but if he keeps this up next year as he begins to move through the system then we can start talking about him having a future in the majors.
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Post#639 » by cmaff051 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:33 am

I'm glad that the draft&follow system is finally gone... the Yankees haven't hit gold with it since Posada and Pettitte and it didn't look like they knew how to use it.
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Post#640 » by nykgeneralmanager » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:38 am

cmaff051 wrote:I'm glad that the draft&follow system is finally gone... the Yankees haven't hit gold with it since Posada and Pettitte and it didn't look like they knew how to use it.

Yeah, Dennehy being the only signing pretty much tells you all that you need to know. The Yanks didn't put much stock into that system, probably because they didn't master it like you said. It took them this long to master the draft (going over slot), so it would've taken a decade to get a handle on the draft and follow system.

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