Yanks (57-54) @ Chicago (41-69) A-Rod back, same result
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Yanks (57-54) @ Chicago (41-69) A-Rod back, same result
Down on the South Side, the Yankees put in ALL of their eggs: Granderson, A-Rod, Wells, Cano, Soriano, Ichiro, Gardner= 9 hits and only ONE run. What has been the story since 2010 is the Yanks inability to bring home runners on base.
Pettitte lasting 2.2 innings was nothing to write home about except an obituary column. The pitching that has kept the Yanks in games during the first half is finally breaking down:
CC Sabbathia 9-10 ERA 4.78
Phil Hughes 4-10 ERA 4.87
Andy Pettitte 7-9 ERA 4.71
Only two stand outs:
Kuroda: 10-6 ERA 2.38
Nova: 6-5 ERA 3.08
Paging Michael Pineda! Anyone? Michael Pineda!? Carl Pavano part 2 coming right up!
Getting back to the starting line up. Despite Vernon Wells having 3 hits, this guy has underachieved his youth, I can see he'll never be the player that was promised. Soriano, will hit his but allow some runs as well defensively. Can A-Rod even run?
Right now Cano and Boras are counting their money. The Yankees are desperate right now. Desperate for Star power.
Pettitte lasting 2.2 innings was nothing to write home about except an obituary column. The pitching that has kept the Yanks in games during the first half is finally breaking down:
CC Sabbathia 9-10 ERA 4.78
Phil Hughes 4-10 ERA 4.87
Andy Pettitte 7-9 ERA 4.71
Only two stand outs:
Kuroda: 10-6 ERA 2.38
Nova: 6-5 ERA 3.08
Paging Michael Pineda! Anyone? Michael Pineda!? Carl Pavano part 2 coming right up!
Getting back to the starting line up. Despite Vernon Wells having 3 hits, this guy has underachieved his youth, I can see he'll never be the player that was promised. Soriano, will hit his but allow some runs as well defensively. Can A-Rod even run?
Right now Cano and Boras are counting their money. The Yankees are desperate right now. Desperate for Star power.
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Dr. Detfink wrote:Right now Cano and Boras are counting their money. The Yankees are desperate right now. Desperate for Star power.
That assumes Cano is a star....
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Vides990 wrote:That assumes Cano is a star....
An All-Star currently with the 6th best stats in the League at his position? Yea, I think that qualifies. This year isn't even his best season.
Yanks wasted a great pitching performance by Kuroda. I thought Kuroda was over thinking his selection when the White Sox got to him and set up the third run.
Tough loss indicative of the entire frustrating season of injuries and ineffective plug-ins. 7 hits 1 RBI. Soriano, A-Rod,
Wells, Cano can't bring in a run to save their lives.
Yanks are going to need an entire off-season to review this entire team top to bottom and eat the bad contracts of Teixiera and what's remaining for Alex Rodriguez.
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I can't wait until they are below .500 and then when Toronto passes them and they are in last place. Then maybe everyone will realize how much this team sucks and what an awful job Cashman and Hank have done.
Keep buying those tickets though.
Keep buying those tickets though.

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Dr. Detfink wrote:Vides990 wrote:That assumes Cano is a star....
An All-Star currently with the 6th best stats in the League at his position? Yea, I think that qualifies. This year isn't even his best season.
Yanks wasted a great pitching performance by Kuroda. I thought Kuroda was over thinking his selection when the White Sox got to him and set up the third run.
Tough loss indicative of the entire frustrating season of injuries and ineffective plug-ins. 7 hits 1 RBI. Soriano, A-Rod,
Wells, Cano can't bring in a run to save their lives.
Yanks are going to need an entire off-season to review this entire team top to bottom and eat the bad contracts of Teixiera and what's remaining for Alex Rodriguez.
You said it yourself in your post, Cano can't bring in the runs....hes not a star. Just because he's the best 2nd baseman doesn't mean he can actually lead a team. Career averages of 285 ba, 20 homers, and 80 rbis does not qualify a player as a star nor should make them eligible for the 10 yr 250 mill deal he wants. He should have been traded with Granderson last year.
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Cano can't bring in the Runs every night. No man can. However he is leading the team in RBIs. Next closest guy, Overbay is 23 RBIs behind. RBIs are not the only component in evaluating a player. As I said, complete stats, Cano comes in #6 in the league this year.
If we were going strictly by RBIs, Curtis Granderson led the Yankees in RBIs the last two seasons.
If we were going strictly by RBIs, Curtis Granderson led the Yankees in RBIs the last two seasons.
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Dr. Detfink wrote:Cano can't bring in the Runs every night. No man can. However he is leading the team in RBIs. Next closest guy, Overbay is 23 RBIs behind. RBIs are not the only component in evaluating a player. As I said, complete stats, Cano comes in #6 in the league this year.
If we were going strictly by RBIs, Curtis Granderson led the Yankees in RBIs the last two seasons.
Just because Overbay sucks ass doesn't make Cano great. He's very very good, but not great.

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2 blown saves in a game. This team is so hard to watch right now.
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Bad teams always find a way to lose.
And this is a horrible team.
And this is a horrible team.
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thebuzzardman wrote:
Just because Overbay sucks ass doesn't make Cano great. He's very very good, but not great.
Who do the Yanks have to replace Cano's production on a team facing impending FA departures, 2 huge dead contracts at the corners which have no replacements as of yet, and one year from the retirement of an icon?
Contracts are all about leverage. Cano has all the leverage. Keep in mind, the Yanks use that policy of playing for your contract in the last year. It's what they were using against Jeter and what Boras will use against the Yanks.
This is not new business with the Yankees.
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Dr. Detfink wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Just because Overbay sucks ass doesn't make Cano great. He's very very good, but not great.
Who do the Yanks have to replace Cano's production on a team facing impending FA departures, 2 huge dead contracts at the corners which have no replacements as of yet, and one year from the retirement of an icon?
Contracts are all about leverage. Cano has all the leverage. Keep in mind, the Yanks use that policy of playing for your contract in the last year. It's what they were using against Jeter and what Boras will use against the Yanks.
This is not new business with the Yankees.
Just because Cano has leverage doesn't mean you just give into and pay what he wants when his production doesnt warrant the contract he desires. Lil Dustin got 7 years 100 mill, Utley got 2 year 27 mill, based on those numbers 6-7 years between 110-140 seems inline with what he should get. Any year or penny over that and its just another terrible contract to add to the list of the Yankees bad decisions. Unless you think Cano is 2.5X better then those guys (which he isn't) theres no way to justify his 10 yr 250 asking price, he just isnt close to that good.
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Dr. Detfink wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Just because Overbay sucks ass doesn't make Cano great. He's very very good, but not great.
Who do the Yanks have to replace Cano's production on a team facing impending FA departures, 2 huge dead contracts at the corners which have no replacements as of yet, and one year from the retirement of an icon?
Contracts are all about leverage. Cano has all the leverage. Keep in mind, the Yanks use that policy of playing for your contract in the last year. It's what they were using against Jeter and what Boras will use against the Yanks.
This is not new business with the Yankees.
Given the Yanks current way of operating, why bother to resign him? It will only concentrate cap wealth disproportionate to production (how'd that work out for Yanks last 3 years?) and then force Cashman to continue to bargain shop, trying to convince us that Overbay or the ghost of Vernon Wells or the corpse of Soriano are somehow "good" acquisitions of a team trying to "compete".
Problem Yanks now have is one the Knicks have. The dumb*ss son of a more competent business man is trying to run a sports franchise for maximum profit, as its the "main" thing he has going on. But son lacks the dads competitive fire and business acumen. But I think the Yanks ran at break even for a while, and only started making profit more recently, with growth of cable channel and other marketing. Hank sees this team as his gravy train, he's not consumed with winning like George S. was, far from it. In fact, I bet he fields a mediocre team for 10 years while pocketing the extra $$ and then the sons cash out and sell the team.
The Yanks are the Dolan\Layden-Isiah era Knicks now. Too stupid and incompetent to build a team via crafty international signings or god forbid - the draft, yet now will not be able to outspend that idiocy, because of, well, because the feckless sons want to take maximum profits.
Get used to it. I'm old enough to remember the sucktastic years in the mid 70's. Yanks are going to suck ass for about 5-7 years. It DOES happen occasionally.

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need new owner
fire everyone in front office
fire everyone in front office
