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Prove was just in the bottom of the 8th. With the injuries, we were practically forced to put Josh Phelps up there with the bases loaded and 2 outs. Dammit Bernie, call someone so you can atleast sit on the bench for times like that!!!!

I think more than Bernie we miss that Ruben Sierra off of the bench. Bernie was not a very good pinch hitter. -Jitpal

you guys are both wrong Melky is 22 he will get better in those situations w/ experience our problem is SP we need quality innings from these guys , I see nothing wrong w/ or situational hitting, we just need a better reasonable gap between quality pitching and defense.

NYKnSTILL! wrote:you guys are both wrong Melky is 22 he will get better in those situations w/ experience our problem is SP we need quality innings from these guys , I see nothing wrong w/ or situational hitting, we just need a better reasonable gap between quality pitching and defense.

I was thinking more of the Josh Phelps at bat. Like it would be nice to have a Ruben Sierra type waiting on the bench to pinch hit for Phelps. -Jitpal

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I was thinking more of the Josh Phelps at bat. Like it would be nice to have a Ruben Sierra type waiting on the bench to pinch hit for Phelps. -Jitpal

Here's my point all your doing is masking the real problem. If there had been one out the Phelps hit is a sacrifice out. Again it's like setting up another GOAT. We need quality innings from our SP , Pavano , Moose, Andy, Kei, I don't like Rasner I've been said he is more of a relief pitcher, Alex hits a 2 run shot 3 - 0 , next inning Rasner leaves one down the middle to Millar , 3 -2 , the back breaker was Rasner leaving a 2 - 0 fastball down the middle to Bako 5 - 3 we need quality 6 IP. We made our stride for a comeback a comeback doesn't happen game after game.

A .300 hitter has a 1/3 chance of getting it done a .400 batter a little more , if your hitting .600 in late innings then you can expect a comeback, it just doesn't happen game after game , I wish Clippard or Marquez was pitching instead of Rasner today , he really should be in the bullpen or in Scranton. Bernie is the last thing that we need right now so is a Sierra type batter.

I think NYKnSTILL! is saying when the team is healthy, Melky can step in for Phelps/Mentkiewickz to pinch hit in those situations.

But I think the original poster was referring to our injury situation and how there is no one on the bench to provdie any punch. It's early in the season, we'll see what happens.

KnickTerp12 wrote:I think NYKnSTILL! is saying when the team is healthy, Melky can step in for Phelps/Mentkiewickz to pinch hit in those situations.
But I think the original poster was referring to our injury situation and how there is no one on the bench to provdie any punch. It's early in the season, we'll see what happens.

No I mean I see nothing wrong w/ Melky and Phelps it's early in the season in NY cold weather for them they will get better. But our REAL problem is the starting pitching staff, the bullpen has been very good so has our hitting, but the SP has to give us quality starts 2 ER 3 ER not 5 - 7 ERs per start especially in a 5 IP - 6 IP.

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Here's my point all your doing is masking the real problem. If there had been one out the Phelps hit is a sacrifice out. .

Well there wasnt one out and that would have been considered situational hitting, that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

NYKnSTILL! wrote:-= Again it's like setting up another GOAT. We need quality innings from our SP , Pavano , Moose, Andy, Kei, I don't like Rasner I've been said he is more of a relief pitcher, Alex hits a 2 run shot 3 - 0 , next inning Rasner leaves one down the middle to Millar , 3 -2 , the back breaker was Rasner leaving a 2 - 0 fastball down the middle to Bako 5 - 3 we need quality 6 IP. We made our stride for a comeback a comeback doesn't happen game after game. .

Rasner went out there and battled with blisters on his hand, dont knock him...look back to the end of last year he did well for us.

NYKnSTILL! wrote:-= A .300 hitter has a 1/3 chance of getting it done a .400 batter a little more , if your hitting .600 in late innings then you can expect a comeback, it just doesn't happen game after game , I wish Clippard or Marquez was pitching instead of Rasner today , he really should be in the bullpen or in Scranton. Bernie is the last thing that we need right now so is a Sierra type batter.

Are you really telling me we need more pitching, that was what our offseason consisted of. These guys are going to be fine, well have Wang back in a couple of weeks. You really dont think Pettitte and moose are gonna win 15 games? Wang too when he gets healthy? If Pavano can stay healthy he should win around that many too. With Igawa, Karstens, Rasner, and Hughes if needed....we have enough to piece together a solid rotation. The thing that kills us is Giambi cannot play first base. However, Mientkievicz is a gold glove first basemen who can hit decently, something that works here because we get offense from other positions that other teams do not (catcher, 2B, SS). Seriously take a look at our roster and tell me you do not think we will be ok.

Also Clippard went 5 innings and allowed 2 runs in AAA, tell me he would have done better against the Orioles, an MLB team and you're crazy. Marquez did the same in AA. I don't really see what your arguement is, youre trying to put the blame somewhere too soon. This team will come around. stop freaking out.

34Celtic wrote:Also Clippard went 5 innings and allowed 2 runs in AAA, tell me he would have done better against the Orioles, an MLB team and you're crazy. Marquez did the same in AA. I don't really see what your arguement is, youre trying to put the blame somewhere too soon. This team will come around. stop freaking out.

your confused man , first I'm not worried, I was posting what is actually going on , Rasner is a swell pitcher but lets be honest here blister or no blister he left pitches down the middle and Rasner in AA or AA is no different than Clippard, Clippard and Marquez are clearly the better option just check their numbers , Rasner is an in between right now. And he is more a RP than a SP his stuff is good for an inning or 2 but not a whole game. I like his change up vs RHB it's wickedly nasty but that's the role I rather he pitch and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

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your confused man , first I'm not worried, I was posting what is actually going on , Rasner is a swell pitcher but lets be honest here blister or no blister he left pitches down the middle and Rasner in AA or AA is no different than Clippard, Clippard and Marquez are clearly the better option just check their numbers , Rasner is an in between right now. And he is more a RP than a SP his stuff is good for an inning or 2 but not a whole game. I like his change up vs RHB it's wickedly nasty but that's the role I rather he pitch and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I dunno if you've ever tried to pitch with a blister on your hand. It affects the grip and the amount of spin and rotation you can put on your breaking pitches. And I did check the numbers and you cant say that 2 runs in AAA or AA in 5 innings will transfer into 2 runs in the majors. I'd rather go with the experience, someone who has pitched in the league than Clippard or Marquez. The coaching staff obviously doesn't think Marquez is close to being ready or he wouldn't be in AA right now. And maybe your right, Rasner may be better suited for the bullpen right now in a Henn like role (remember how awful Henn was as a starter, but I dont think he is a better option out there than what we have. Right now he is our best option as our 5th starter and given a few more weeks may be placed into the role you want him at because Wang and Karstens will force him out.

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I dunno if you've ever tried to pitch with a blister on your hand. It affects the grip and the amount of spin and rotation you can put on your breaking pitches. And I did check the numbers and you cant say that 2 runs in AAA or AA in 5 innings will transfer into 2 runs in the majors. I'd rather go with the experience, someone who has pitched in the league than Clippard or Marquez. The coaching staff obviously doesn't think Marquez is close to being ready or he wouldn't be in AA right now. And maybe your right, Rasner may be better suited for the bullpen right now in a Henn like role (remember how awful Henn was as a starter, but I dont think he is a better option out there than what we have. Right now he is our best option as our 5th starter and given a few more weeks may be placed into the role you want him at because Wang and Karstens will force him out.

Tyler Clippard last 16 starts:

103.3 IP, 25ER, 2.17ERA, 2.61 BB/9, 0.92 WHIP, 0.51 HR/9

Rasner was nowhere close to that

Before this season, Rasner had 10 career starts in AAA compared to Clippard's 0. The Yankees wouldn't even consider bring up Clippard right now. And Marquez isn't even worth discussing, he has 1 start above A ball.

nykgeneralmanager wrote:Before this season, Rasner had 10 career starts in AAA compared to Clippard's 0. The Yankees wouldn't even consider bring up Clippard right now. And Marquez isn't even worth discussing, he has 1 start above A ball.

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaank you...

Bernie wasn't too good as a pinch hitter but I'd take him over Josh Phelps.

nykgeneralmanager wrote:Before this season, Rasner had 10 career starts in AAA compared to Clippard's 0. The Yankees wouldn't even consider bring up Clippard right now. And Marquez isn't even worth discussing, he has 1 start above A ball.

anyone else I would argue this w/ but I ain't debating w/ NYKGM he's got his HW straight when it comes to our NY Yankees.

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anyone else I would argue this w/ but I ain't debating w/ NYKGM he's got his HW straight when it comes to our NY Yankees.

Thanks I guess