Angels vs. Yankees - Game 2

cmaff051 · Post #1 » by **cmaff051** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:17 pm

Yankee Lineup today

Abreu RF
Jeter SS
Matsui LF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Giambi DH
Cano 2B
Mientkiewicz 1B
Cabrera CF
Wang RHP

What is Abreu doing batting leadoff? :nonono:

The lineup should be

Jeter
Matsui
Arod
Posada
Giambi
Cano
Abreu
Cabrera
Minky

DakkaFromNyc · Post #2 » by **DakkaFromNyc** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:20 pm

Our offense is fine w/e u put it, that is how good our batters r

But its been our pitchin thats the problem

cmaff051 · Post #3 » by **cmaff051** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:21 pm

DakkaFromNyc wrote:Our offense is fine w/e u put it, that is how good our batters r

But its been our pitchin thats the problem

You don't bat a guy who is hitting .240 leadoff. :nonono:

Your best hitters this year are supposed to get the most at-bats, not your worst hitters.

meatball sub · Post #4 » by **meatball sub** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:47 pm

If ya'll want Damon to get healthy, putting him on the DL is a smart idea. The guy looks so slow, I don't see Melky having the horrible day in CF that Damon had last night.

34Celtic · Post #5 » by **34Celtic** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:49 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You don't bat a guy who is hitting .240 leadoff. Your best hitters this year are supposed to get the most at-bats, not your worst hitters.

So Arod should be hitting leadoff? Youre leadoff hitters should take pitches, battle, have some speed, etc. Do I agree with it? no....but I don't want Jeter up there, he should hit third

cmaff051 · Post #6 » by **cmaff051** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:05 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So Arod should be hitting leadoff? Youre leadoff hitters should take pitches, battle, have some speed, etc. Do I agree with it? no....but I don't want Jeter up there, he should hit third

In an ideal world, yes, Arod should bat leadoff. He's your best hitter.

But Joe will not think out of the box. He'd rather bat Arod 8th. :nonono:

34Celtic · Post #7 » by **34Celtic** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:48 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

In an ideal world, yes, Arod should bat leadoff. He's your best hitter.

But Joe will not think out of the box. He'd rather bat Arod 8th.

So Arod would hit after Melky and Mientkiewicz? No your best hitters are supposed to hit 3/4 and get up with people on base. Which is why Jeter hits second, his OBP is around .450 and gets on so AROD has a chance to hit him hom

KnickTerp12 · Post #8 » by **KnickTerp12** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:03 pm

hmm that wasn't a strike

cmaff051 · Post #9 » by **cmaff051** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:05 pm

That was a BS strike 3 call.

majorleads · Post #10 » by **majorleads** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:14 pm

That was a makeup call, Damon should have been struck out on that curve ball

cmaff051 · Post #11 » by **cmaff051** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:17 pm

majorleads wrote:That was a makeup call, Damon should have been struck out on that curve ball

LOL, that curveball wasn't even close to being a strike.

And a makeup call? :rofl:

That's ridiculous. That's not how you ump, even if Damon's curveball was a strike, even though it wasn't.

majorleads · Post #12 » by **majorleads** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:34 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

LOL, that curveball wasn't even close to being a strike.

And a makeup call? That's ridiculous. That's not how you ump, even if Damon's curveball was a strike, even though it wasn't.

Do you know which pitch I'm talking about? I believe it was the one right before Damon singled. I'll have to watch it again when the archive game is up on mlb.tv. I thought it was odd when Michael Kay went silent on that pitch. Didn't even say a thing. Game should have been over and the ump knew he blew that call.

And makeup pitch calls happen all the time.

NYKnSTILL! · Post #13 » by **NYKnSTILL!** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:39 pm

was it a bad call yes , but Abreu can not expect to get that call the way he is hitting, he didn't even swing at the plate in that AB two golpher ball curveballs, Bobby you ain't Jeter that call does not go to a .220 hitter :nonono:

I'm upset w/ the direction that the MANAGER is taking this team, if not for an Alex Rodriguez single then the steal, we get shut out , so many questionable calls from the bench.

1. What's Bobby doing hitting 1st ?

2. runner on first w/ one out did we have to hit and run w/ Matsui while Alex was left on deck

3. why is Jeter bunting didn't he have a 19 game hit streak

4. Joe you think you can argue that strike out yeh the game ended but atleast draw attention to that crap.

5. Giambi he is rapidly moving to my sh** list

tough times ahead IDK guys , IDK

majorleads · Post #14 » by **majorleads** » Sat May 26, 2007 9:25 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote:was it a bad call yes , but Abreu can not expect to get that call the way he is hitting, he didn't even swing at the plate in tha AB to golpher ball curveballs, Bobby you ain't Jeter that call does not go to a .220 hitter

I'm upset w/ the direction that the MANAGER is taking this team, if not for an Alex Rodriguez single then the steal, we get shut out , so many questionable calls from the bench.

1. What's Bobby doing hitting 1st ?

2. runner on first w/ one out did we have to hit and run w/ Matsui while Alex was left on deck

3. why is Jeter bunting didn't he have a 19 game hit streak

4. Joe you think you can argue that strike out yeh the game ended but atleast draw attention to that crap.

5. Giambi he is rapidly moving to my sh** list

tough times ahead IDK guys , IDK

I agree. I think Cmaff is in serious denial. After this season I can see your entire offense overhauled except for Jeter, Cano, Matsui and Posada.

34Celtic · Post #15 » by **34Celtic** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:00 pm

majorleads wrote:And makeup pitch calls happen all the time.

Come on dude, an ump isn't going to call a pitch a strike or not to make the game fair or makeup for a previous mistake....this isnt the WWF

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #16 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:09 pm

i thought wang did a good job but the yankees just didn't hit well...

34Celtic · Post #17 » by **34Celtic** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:16 pm

The pitching was great after Wang **** the bed in the first inning

majorleads · Post #18 » by **majorleads** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:47 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Come on dude, an ump isn't going to call a pitch a strike or not to make the game fair or makeup for a previous mistake....this isnt the WWF

It happens all the time. However, that last pitch was sooo far outside he should have called it a ball even if he had too make one up. Usually the ump on a makeup pitch will give you the strike if it's just off the corner or a bit low.

ReggieFULLeffect · Post #19 » by **ReggieFULLeffect** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:47 pm

You could put together a team of senior citizens, call them the Angels, and the Yankees would lose to them.

majorleads · Post #20 » by **majorleads** » Sat May 26, 2007 11:13 pm

Ok I just watched that half inning again on mlb.tv and kept replaying the pitches. The 0-2 curveball against Damon which I thought was a strike was borderline, could have gone either way. They didn't show replays so I'll assume it was a ball. I'll give you that. It's tough to tell because the camera angle is not straight.

Now onto Abreu's at bat. First pitch was off the plate outside for a ball. Second pitch was a nasty hook right over the plate which bobby just stared at. The third pitch...now this why he got called out on the next pitch. This pitch was another nasty hook that was right over the plate, perhaps a tad bit low, but definitely crossed at the knees. Just a beautiful pitch that Abreu stood their and watched. Ok after this pitch, Abreu complains and walks out of the batters box for TWENTY FIVE SECONDS! Finally he gets in and you can just tell the ump is now ticked off. Next pitch a foot outside, strike 3 called which is, the umps way of saying don't show me up next time.