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Hughes for Texiera?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:09 pm
by cmaff051
Ken Rosental writes that the Yankees should trade Hughes for Texiera straight up, what do you guys think?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6938410
The following sentences will be written approximately 6,389,432 times before the July 31 non-waiver deadline:
# The Yankees will not trade right-hander Phil Hughes, not even for Rangers first baseman Mark Teixeira.
# The Rangers will not trade Mark Teixeira to the Yankees unless they get Phil Hughes.
Please.
The Yankees are understandably reluctant to move Hughes, who was eight outs away from a no-hitter in his second major-league start.
But no player is untouchable, especially not an unproven pitching prospect, talented though he might be.
Likewise, no prospect is so valuable that a deal can not be completed without him.
If the Rangers trade Teixeira, they will need to involve the Yankees, whose needs and resources make them an ideal match.
The Rangers' plan should be to hold out for Hughes, then accept other prospects from the Yankees' improved farm system, if necessary.
The Yankees, in turn, should demand one of the Rangers' veteran relievers and perhaps a lower-level pitching prospect in any deal for Hughes.
One rival GM projects Hughes as only a No. 3 or No. 4 starter, saying, "I'm not as high as the hype."
Everybody probably knows my opinion on this article... TOILET PAPER.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:55 pm
by Lord Commander
From a fan who despises the Yanks, I hope Cash makes that deal

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:00 pm
by cmaff051
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:From a fan who despises the Yanks, I hope Cash makes that deal

How about Omar trades us Oliver Perez for Matt Desalvo?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:01 pm
by Jitpal
Cashman won't do it. He shouldn't do it. A good 1B is far easier to get than a good starting pitcher. Let alone a future ace. If they don't want to deal him to us normally, that's cool, we can sign him after next year and the Rangers will get nothing. -Jitpal
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:11 pm
by nykgeneralmanager

That is all any human being with a brain can do to the idea of trading Hughes for anything other than Johan Santana or Jake Peavy.
As for the 'rival GM' who isn't on the hype, he is probably one of the 20 rival GMs that passed on Hughes in the draft and allowed him to fall into our laps at 21 overall.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:16 pm
by gooGD
absolutely moronic idea...
the yankees have way too much invested in hughes. all the lore and hype built up for this guy since last year, thats how long hes been "untouchable" so to say. to trade him for a power 1b who is barely a 300 hitter? please, hughes is worth more than that when he didnt look so hot in his first outing and in spring training. rosenthal should know better....
for mark teixeira? please... there are much better young players that could be had if the yankees were willing to give up hughes.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:45 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Somebody needs to create a thread called "National Writer or RealGM poster?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:02 pm
by AGGiE
hmmmm rival GM....... Theo Epstein?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:08 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Unnamed GM usually denotes a made-up quote to further a writer's point.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:08 pm
by cmaff051
VCKiddRJ1524 wrote:hmmmm rival GM....... Theo Epstein?

Seriously, I wouldn't put it past them.
Theo: "Clay Buchholz is the greatest prospect ever and projects as a #1 bonafide ace. Phil Hughes, on the other hand, will be lucky to ever be in the major leagues and will get bombed once he is there. I'm not as high as the hype and think he's a #3 or #4 starter at best"
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:14 pm
by 34Celtic
Basketball Jesus wrote:Somebody needs to create a thread called "National Writer or RealGM poster?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:25 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Maybe later today I'll start one.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:07 pm
by 34Celtic
Basketball Jesus wrote:Maybe later today I'll start one.
We could sticky it on the General MLB thread. Once or twice a week we could come up with a ridiculus quote, quote it, and then a few days later reveal the source. BRILLLLIANT
mmmm I need a Sam....long day at work.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:11 pm
by Lord Commander
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:16 pm
by 34Celtic
I think Omars too smart to trade a whole friggan state.....
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:21 pm
by cmaff051
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I knew you would come around on "The Olinator." Pretty soon you'll be asking for Maine

I don't think I have ever talked trash about Oliver Perez. I have always acknowledge that he has a good arm and just needs to be consistent. He could a legit ace.
John Maine, on the other hand, you guys all know my opinion, and that won't change.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:28 pm
by Lord Commander
cmaff051 wrote:John Maine, on the other hand, you guys all know my opinion, and that won't change.

Give the man his props

. He pitched a damn good game last night against one of the more formidable AL offenses. 1 through 5, that Twin lineup is nothing the sneeze at.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:34 pm
by cmaff051
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Give the man his props

. He pitched a damn good game last night against one of the more formidable AL offenses. 1 through 5, that Twin lineup is nothing the sneeze at.
His secondary pitches are just so unimpressive, IMO. He can get by with just his fastball in the AL, though, which is a very very good pitch.
And a formidable AL offense? I don't think so, the Twins are 17th in baseball in runs scored, behind that formidable KC Royals offense.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:45 pm
by Lord Commander
cmaff051 wrote:And a formidable AL offense? I don't think so, the Twins are 17th in baseball in runs scored, behind that formidable KC Royals offense.

Those present numbers aren't indicative of where they'll be at the end of the year. They are always late comers. I expect them to compete for the WC

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:58 pm
by 34Celtic
cmaff051 wrote:I don't think I have ever talked trash about Oliver Perez. I have always acknowledge that he has a good arm and just needs to be consistent. He could a legit ace.
I think he showed us all that after he was traded for Brian Giles. Why the Pirates would trade him for Xavier Nady is beyond me.