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Great, looks like the Sox found another young stud Starter

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:33 pm
by LamboNYK
This kid Kasom Gabbard.

Dudes been lights out for like a month now and is shutting down CHI today.

So far today - 6IP, 2H, 1ER, 0BB

Last Outing - 9IP(CG), 3H, 1BB, 8K


And then we have De Salvo, Chase Wright, and Igawa. We do have Phil-thy Hughes and Wang though.

But when you project down the road, if they have Dice-K, Beckett, Gabbard, and possibly Lester living up to potential, that can be pretty tough.

We REALLY need Chamberlin to come through. Hopefully Sanchez can make a recovery and fulfill his potential, but thats real iffy.

The real solution to all this is to just break the bank and lock up Johan no matter what. I dont care how much we spend for him and ARod. With ARod, Jeter, Johan, Hughes, and Wang, all we need is solid role players and the foundation for another championship run is there.


Excuse my mid day baseball ramblings, but these are just the thoughts I have when checking out the league. Thought you guys should know.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:28 am
by Ballings7
yeah Gabbard's been coming on... would love to get Santana.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:17 am
by cmaff051
:rofl: :rofl:

Kason Gabbard is trash. He'll be exposed soon. Wait until the league catches up with him, he'll be getting hit around.

If you want to be scared of a young Boston starter, be scared of Clay Buchholz, who is in Class AAA Pawtucket.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:29 am
by 34Celtic
I agree with cmaff.....Gabbard was up last year...remember?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:44 am
by cmaff051
34Celtic wrote:I agree with cmaff.....Gabbard was up last year...remember?


Yup. These guys have two or three good starts and then the league starts to catch up to them and they get exposed. See: David Pauley, Matt Desalvo.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:00 am
by The Rondo Show
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yup. These guys have two or three good starts and then the league starts to catch up to them and they get exposed. See: David Pauley, Matt Desalvo.
Well, Gabbard is clearly not a young stud like the original poster thinks, but I'd say he is considerably better than both Pauley and Desalvo. He has 2 very solid off-speed offerings in his changeup and his curveball, neither one of them has a pitch anywhere near as good as those 2 pitches Gabbard has. He has excellent groundball tendencies and he changes speeds well. Unfortunately, his fastball is below average and his command is inconsistent and that will keep him from being anything more than a #5 starter in the AL.

He is a guy that could be a pretty good pitcher, a solid 4--maybe a 3, in the NL (IMO) though. I'm just hoping he can go on an Aaron Small/Shawn Chacon run for the Sox and pitch like a stud for the rest of the season before he tails off big the next year.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:04 am
by cmaff051
I just love the Aaron Small digs. I would say a combination of what Okajima/Tavarez/Delcarmen/Gabbard (perform well over their head in comparision to their skills levels) have done this year equals to what Aaron Small gave us in 2005. Red Sox fans act like they haven't had their fair shake of fluky performances and that the Yanks are the only team to ever have anything like this happen to them.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:08 am
by The Rondo Show
cmaff051 wrote:I just love the Aaron Small digs. I would say a combination of what Okajima/Tavarez/Delcarmen/Gabbard have done this year equals to what Aaron Small gave us in 2005. Red Sox fans act like they haven't had their fair shake of fluky performances and that the Yanks are the only team to ever have anything like this happen to them.
Wow, some people are just so defensive. It wasn't a dig at all, it was a very good example. A guy who clearly was not a #1 or #2 starter, pitching like one, to help his team win the division.

Tavarez has been terrible, don't know why you'd even mention him. And while Okajima and Delcarmen have pitched over their heads, they both have more talent in their left pinky than Aaron Small (or Kason Gabbard).

All teams have fluky performances, the Red Sox and the Yankees included, I didn't claim otherwise.

It all evens out in the end. Except for the Oakland A's, who seemingly pull scrubs out of their ass and make them into starters with sub-4 ERA's every year.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:19 am
by Ballings7
Good point about he could be exposed soon. Hopefully.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:53 am
by Markos
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yup. These guys have two or three good starts and then the league starts to catch up to them and they get exposed. See: David Pauley, Matt Desalvo.


well last year his era was around 3.5 if i remember, hardly exposed