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Barry Bonds

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:54 am
by blazersmaniac8
Says that barry bonds isn't going to be resigned by the giants. TBH I HATE his guts with a passion and hope he never puts on the stripes but do you see it happening since he wants to play dh? Plz god no but I could see it happening... :nonono:

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:14 am
by nykgeneralmanager
We have about 3 DHs locked up for next season in Giambi, Damon, and Matsui. The Yanks won't look at Bonds.

Re: Barry Bonds

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:05 am
by VinnyTheMick
blazersmaniac8 wrote:Says that barry bonds isn't going to be resigned by the giants. TBH I HATE his guts with a passion and hope he never puts on the stripes but do you see it happening since he wants to play dh? Plz god no but I could see it happening... :nonono:


it would never happen. we have too many dhs as it is.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:11 am
by PR07
I don't want Bonds, we have enough aging sluggers as is.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:23 pm
by Pugsley_2491
I would not mind trading Giambi and then picking up bonds. He'd tear up the A.L. plus him and arod would be a great 1-2 punch in the lineup.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:52 pm
by VinnyTheMick
Pugsley_2491 wrote:I would not mind trading Giambi and then picking up bonds. He'd tear up the A.L. plus him and arod would be a great 1-2 punch in the lineup.


in other words, it will never happen.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:40 am
by Pugsley_2491
VinnyTheMick wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



in other words, it will never happen.


and why not?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:44 am
by Abraham Lincoln
Because Bonds isn't tearing up the AL when he can barely tear up the NL. He is old and will not fill any holes. I don't care if A-Rod leaves. I don't want this steroid-taking obnoxious arrogant loser playing for my team. his guy is everything the Yankees don't stand for. He's worse than Sheffield.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:13 am
by Jitpal
I don't think we should go after Bonds under any circumstances. However, it would be interesting to think about where this team would go if Arod opts-out and leaves. There is no real big offensive player available, maybe Andruw Jones but he has already said he only wants to play in hot areas and his offense this past season has been putrid. I understand we can pick up a guy like Lowell(I despise him) to replace him at 3rd but at the plate, who is available to be that #4 guy? I don't see anyone. -Jitpal

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:38 pm
by Slamm Goodbody
Jitpal wrote:I don't think we should go after Bonds under any circumstances. However, it would be interesting to think about where this team would go if Arod opts-out and leaves. There is no real big offensive player available, maybe Andruw Jones but he has already said he only wants to play in hot areas and his offense this past season has been putrid. I understand we can pick up a guy like Lowell(I despise him) to replace him at 3rd but at the plate, who is available to be that #4 guy? I don't see anyone. -Jitpal


Agreed, except that I wouldn't be disgusted if picked up Lowell - he's proven to be a quality player in the past. Maybe we can crank up the old Miguel Cabrera trade rumor mill, but you'd be looking at a minimum of losing Kennedy and some kids we really like as a result - something we may not want to stomach.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:59 pm
by Jitpal
Slamm Goodbody wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Agreed, except that I wouldn't be disgusted if picked up Lowell - he's proven to be a quality player in the past. Maybe we can crank up the old Miguel Cabrera trade rumor mill, but you'd be looking at a minimum of losing Kennedy and some kids we really like as a result - something we may not want to stomach.

I really don't like Lowell, he is an accomplished player but I just don't want him. I'm less concerned about 3B than the offense. We have Betemit who is pretty good at 3B from what little I have seen from him. It's the offense, how do we replace the 40+ HRs, 120+ RBIs and our only real right handed batter aside from Jeter. My gut feeling is Cabrera would cost much more than Kennedy and extras. I would imagine they would want one of Hughes or Chamberlain plus Tabata and maybe more. Think of what all they have turned down for Willis and he even has been declining since 2003. It is absolutely imperative for us to bring back Arod at all costs and Boras knows it. -Jitpal

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:15 pm
by HCYanks
Lowell is an absolutely terrible option, FWIW. Someone on another board actually went through his at-bats and figured out his good season is almost entirely a product of left field in Fenway--hence the giant divide in his home-road splits. All of the balls that he hits off the Green Monster would turn into flyball outs in Yankee stadium. He'd be another Damon-esque mistake... except possibly even worse.

As for Bonds, you can ride your high horse all you want (God knows you're not getting off of one so tall), but he might still be the best hitter in the league if he got enough at-bats. If not for all the redundant DH-types on the team already, i'd love to have him.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:47 pm
by 34Celtic
HCYanks wrote:As for Bonds, you can ride your high horse all you want (God knows you're not getting off of one so tall), but he might still be the best hitter in the league if he got enough at-bats. If not for all the redundant DH-types on the team already, i'd love to have him.


Exactly

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:49 pm
by Slamm Goodbody
HCYanks wrote:Lowell is an absolutely terrible option, FWIW. Someone on another board actually went through his at-bats and figured out his good season is almost entirely a product of left field in Fenway--hence the giant divide in his home-road splits. All of the balls that he hits off the Green Monster would turn into flyball outs in Yankee stadium. He'd be another Damon-esque mistake... except possibly even worse.

As for Bonds, you can ride your high horse all you want (God knows you're not getting off of one so tall), but he might still be the best hitter in the league if he got enough at-bats. If not for all the redundant DH-types on the team already, i'd love to have him.


The concerns with Lowell are certainly justified. I respect him as a player, as a defender, and as a Yankee farmhand, but I'm not positive he'd provide that #4 power we need from the corner infield spot. In this case, the best route for filling a hole left by A-Rod may be to look at bringing in a power 1B and going with defense and a little pop at 3B, which is what Lowell would bring. I'd love to see the post from the other board where they went through his at-bats because it sounds very interesting (and very well could turn my opinion).

Jitpal, as far as Betemit, I'm not sold on him in the slightest. As a utility guy he's fine, but I wouldn't want to start him daily at 3B just because of his tendency to swing at everything thrown anywhere near near him.

As far as Bonds goes, he can't stand the rigors of a full season anymore. His body won't allow him to be even a full-time DH. Even though he didn't go on the DL, how many games did he have to rest this year? Even if Bonds isn't playing the field, Giambi proved that being a full-time DH can still yield injuries. These aging ex-roided sluggers are breaking down, and I don't feel like watching a shell of one who was once the greatest hitter I've ever seen whine in the NY media about the twilight of his career. ESPN already has a conniption every time the guy takes a piss, I can only cringe thinking about what they'd cook up with him in pinstripes.

Bonds can still help another team, but we really don't need him. I'd rather have someone younger and more reliable - or, of course, extend A-Rod. We especially don't need the distraction - one even bigger than Giambi was. For the first time in a long, long time the team is gelling, everyone seems to be having fun, and there's no dour pricks that produce but that I hate rooting for on the team (i.e. Sheff, Randy Johnson, Kenny Lofton, etc.). Cashman has finally stopped the train of overpaid has-beens and is looking to the future, so let's not turn back the clock.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:55 pm
by 34Celtic
If Wilson Betemit is our third baseman next year I will jump ship because it will show that our management has completely lost it.