Leo Mazzone

EM PLEH · Post #1 » by **EM PLEH** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:01 pm

He just got fired by the Orioles...why not sign him as pitching coach?

VinnyTheMick · Post #2 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:16 am

its pretty easy to be considered a great pitching coach when you have Maddux, Glavine & Smoltz in their primes, not so much when you're coaching a bunch of scrubs.....

Fury · Post #3 » by **Fury** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:17 am

And when you have Andruw Jones in centerfield.

Post #4 » by **PR07** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:33 am

He did pretty well from getting a lot from some nobodies for a span, but I want a pitching coach that is really going to develop our young players and not just make them appear better than they really seem if that makes sense.

theknicks414 · Post #5 » by **theknicks414** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:06 pm

how about Dave Eiland as our pitching coach?

Post #6 » by **sully00** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:44 pm

To me the thing with hitting coaches and pitching coaches, besides being fall guys, is do they help their players, and that has to be a personal and internal assessment.

Did the Yankees pitchers underachieve?

Wang - was great
Pettite - was all we could hope for
Mussina - struggled but it looks like father time more than anything a pitching coach could fix.
Clemens - was what you had to expect and shouldn't be back anyway
Hughes - made one of the most difficult adjustments in sports pretty seamlessly
Igawa - was disaster but he wasn't all that good in Scranton either
Add to that he had a procession of guys run through the rotation in the first half of the season, some of which did not belong in Scranton.

The Bullpen is a different discussion. But most of that is witchcraft. Vizciano - came around adjusting the AL
Farnsworth - blows but I don't think any pitching coach can fix that.
Proctor - was disappointment but part of that was the way he was handled because Farnsworth blows.

I thought Guidry handled the kids well, the issues are more with personnel than with the coaching staff. He didn't do anything that should cost him his job. I think Eiland may be better used in the roaving role and they can always make him the bullpen coach if they want him with the major league club.

Post #7 » by **moocow007** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:23 pm

Yeah I don't think that Guidry really has done anything to warrant being let go other than him not being the pitching coach of choice for the next manager (who almost always come with their own staff of subordinates).