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Management Dropped the Ball with AROD. 

Post#1 » by ManicBullsFan » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:18 am

They showed no willingness to get a deal done.

They tried to play hardball. Since when has the Yankees been cheap?

Despite AROD producing more than Jeter in the last few years, he hasn't been welcomed by New Yorkers, at all.

Why shouldn't the best player in baseball get an extention.

You whinge about not getting bonds in 2000 and before.

Well we had AROD and we let him walk.

The ballpen has been an absolute JOKE for the last 3 season, only now is it showing promise.

Instead of going after Damon we should have been after arms.


He sarcifised and played 3rd base to try and fit in here and got no respect.

Well done

Whats the chances of him going to the red sox now? pretty good i think.
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Post#2 » by Pharmcat » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:22 am

they wanted to meet, they were ready to negotiate during the season (unlike b4).....they tried enough

he is after the $$$.....we move on
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Post#3 » by cmaff051 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:23 am

ManicBullsFan wrote:They showed no willingness to get a deal done.


You're wrong from sentence one. The Yankees were willing to sit down with him and carve out an extension and he wouldn't even give the Yankees the time of day. The Yankee brass showed a willingness to get the deal done, Arod didn't.

They tried to play hardball. Since when has the Yankees been cheap?

Offering an extension that would make him the highest played player in AAV in history of baseball is lowballing him?

Despite AROD producing more than Jeter in the last few years, he hasn't been welcomed by New Yorkers, at all.

Jeter gets the benefit of the doubt because he has a history of being a great postseason hitter. He's a lifelong Yankee too and was one of the MVPs of our championship run. Jeter is a legend in New York because of that... Arod isn't.

Why shouldn't the best player in baseball get an extention.

Yes, the Yankees were willing to talk about an extension. Arod wouldn't even listen to our side. He just opted out.
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Post#4 » by ManicBullsFan » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:24 am

Since when has the yankess had a problem with money???

Something is fishy...
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Post#5 » by kNiCk_PriDe » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:25 am

The Yankees were preparing to offer him an extension. He never gave them a chance. He never even stopped to talk. He had 10 more days after the world series to opt out. He could have heard the yankees out, but he didn't. Oh well, life's a bitch. A couple of kids in New York or gonna cry when they wake up tommorow morning when they hear, but oh well. They'll move on.
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Post#6 » by cmaff051 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:27 am

ManicBullsFan wrote:Since when has the yankess had a problem with money???

Something is fishy...


So the Yankees should just let him opt out, let him waste our $21 million Texas subsidy, and then pay him $300 million to lock him up until he is in his 40s? That's not how we work. We aren't giving him a blank check.
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Post#7 » by kNiCk_PriDe » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:27 am

ManicBullsFan wrote:Since when has the yankess had a problem with money???

Something is fishy...



I think the only thing fishy here is you not knowing what the hell you're talking bout. You clearly dont know anything bout the situation, yet you post about it. move on bro...go to the bulls forum and talk bout Deng's extension.
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Post#8 » by Knicks 316 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:28 am

Since when does this guy deserve $30 million a year? stats are great and all but playoff performance matters more to me and so do winning titles.
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Post#9 » by PR07 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:28 am

You are dead off on this one.

The Yankees rescued AROD from a losing franchise in Texas, they were one of a handful franchises that could take on his albatross contract and give him an opportunity to win. They scooped him up when the Boston trade fell through and let him be on a contender.

If Arod wanted to be here, he'd be here. The Yankees aren't just going to hand him a blank check and let him put how many years and 0's he wants on it, and they are also not getting into a bidding war to let him make more money elsewhere. No player is bigger than the organization. Arod wouldn't even sit down with the Yankees, he wouldn't even let Cashman talk. He doesn't want to be here, so the Yankees aren't going to let him drive up his pricetag.

AROD had the fans on his side even after another playoff series where he didn't do much of anything. He could've gone down as one of the best ever to wear pinstripes, he chose to earn more money. If that's what he's all about, then good riddance.
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Post#10 » by nykgeneralmanager » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:32 am

ManicBullsFan wrote:They showed no willingness to get a deal done.

They tried to play hardball. Since when has the Yankees been cheap?


Despite AROD producing more than Jeter in the last few years, he hasn't been welcomed by New Yorkers, at all.

Why shouldn't the best player in baseball get an extention.

You whinge about not getting bonds in 2000 and before.

Well we had AROD and we let him walk.

The ballpen has been an absolute JOKE for the last 3 season, only now is it showing promise.

Instead of going after Damon we should have been after arms.


He sarcifised and played 3rd base to try and fit in here and got no respect.

Well done

Whats the chances of him going to the red sox now? pretty good i think.

Since when is offering a player the largest contract in SPORTS history being cheap?
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Post#11 » by Pharmcat » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:36 am

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AROD had the fans on his side even after another playoff series where he didn't do much of anything. He could've gone down as one of the best ever to wear pinstripes, he chose to earn more money. If that's what he's all about, then good riddance.


yea, if largest contract in sports + breaking all the records while playing for one of the most storied frranchises in the world isnt good enough for him, then screw him, we gotta move on
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Post#12 » by ManicBullsFan » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:40 am

Schue was paid more.

Yes the money is big, but everyone knows arod wants a long term deal like every other pro athlete with their last shot at the big contract.

5 years won't cut it, i think he is after 7-8. Id give it to him. If it weren't for AROD this year we would not have even made the playoffs. They way things are going i think jeter should give some of his salary to arod, you can't live today off of past glories you know. If they payed Damon all that money what they heck is AROD actually worth?
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Post#13 » by cmaff051 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:42 am

ManicBullsFan wrote:Schue was paid more.

Yes the money is big, but everyone knows arod wants a long term deal like every other pro athlete with their last shot at the big contract.

5 years won't cut it, i think he is after 7-8. Id give it to him. If it weren't for AROD this year we would not have even made the playoffs. They way things are going i think jeter should give some of his salary to arod, you can't live today off of past glories you know. If they payed Damon all that money what they heck is AROD actually worth?


Arod is 32 right now. He has 3 years left on his contract. You want to tack on an additional 7-8 years onto that and pay him until he is 43 or 44? That is crazy, absolutely crazy. I don't want to pay him $30 million a year until he is 43.

Think about it for a second... he'll be 43!!! How many hitters are elite hitters at age 43???
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Post#14 » by PR07 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:43 am

No player is worth that kind of money especially when they have proven absolutely nothing when it comes to actually winning a championship. The Yankees aren't going to sell out for one star when they've kept the same standards for both past and present stars. If you want to stay, they'll pay you well and handsomely, but they aren't going to let you put yourself above the organization. Apparently, AROD thinks he is...well, he better pack his bags.

Johnny Damon really has nothing to do with this either. His contract is comparable to what other aging top CF's will make, and even though he is not at that level anymore...at the time, he was.
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Post#15 » by Pharmcat » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:43 am

its useless to talk bout contract length if him and boras refused to meet to talk.
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Post#16 » by kNiCk_PriDe » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:46 am

i think 5 years plus the 3 already on his contract should suffice. 8 yrs is considered long term. Plus the 5 yr extension wasnt a set deal. He didnt even talk. I'm sure Cash would hav uped it to 7 bringing it to 10 more years if Arod and Boras pushed. No one offers theyre biggest offer off the bat. I'm sure Cash expected Arod to counter, but ARod had his bags packed and mind set on leaving already. I hope he gets implicated for steroids.
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Post#17 » by ManicBullsFan » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:40 am

yea I'm talking extend him 5 years to a total of 8.

Without out alex this year we don't even make the playoffs.

Other players have to stand up. How many 30+ ab does jeter have in the last 2 years without a hit?

I'm definitely not a jeter basher, but the double standards are beyond belief. Put the teams jeter had for the world champions teams he played for alex and I'm sure we still would have won them, we had great pitching as well then.

Pay arod at 30 mil a season, the rest of the batting lineup needs to take a pay cut. They have sucked.
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Post#18 » by theknicks414 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:34 pm

ManicBullsFan wrote:They showed no willingness to get a deal done.

They gave Boras and Arod 2 calls which they never returned trying to set up a meeting in which they would offer him a record setting extension.

ManicBullsFan wrote:They tried to play hardball. Since when has the Yankees been cheap?

I don't think offering a record setting contract is being cheap. And if a player basically made you lose 21 million because he could, would you want to sign him back?

ManicBullsFan wrote:Despite AROD producing more than Jeter in the last few years, he hasn't been welcomed by New Yorkers, at all.

Jeter has 4 rings. Arod has zero.

ManicBullsFan wrote:Why shouldn't the best player in baseball get an extention.

Why should the best player in baseball, who knows he's going to get the most money from the Yankees, opt out of his contract during game 4 of the world series without even discussing his situation with the Yankees? He is classless, selfish, and only cares about Alex. He can take his baggage to another team who wants to pay him 30 mill+.

ManicBullsFan wrote:He sarcifised and played 3rd base to try and fit in here and got no respect.
Well done
Whats the chances of him going to the red sox now? pretty good i think.

Hahaha. Why would the Red Sox want a loser like A-Rod? The Red Sox are winners and they just won a world series without him. the thought of them paying for 30 million a year for an arrogant loser, who rejected them years a go, to be on their team is just hysterical.

Bottom line: Alex didn't want to be a Yankee and looking back his 4 years here was a failure.
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Post#19 » by TKF » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:05 pm

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So the Yankees should just let him opt out, let him waste our $21 million Texas subsidy, and then pay him $300 million to lock him up until he is in his 40s? That's not how we work. We aren't giving him a blank check.


exactly, that 21 mil subsidy is important, why should we pay 21 mil extra to keep A-rod, when he can just negotiate now, especially if he REALLY wants to be a yankee..
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Post#20 » by ccvle » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:14 pm

Do you even know what you are talking about? The yanks' offer was 5yrs 135-150mil, how much more do you think we should have offered?

ManicBullsFan wrote:yea I'm talking extend him 5 years to a total of 8.

Without out alex this year we don't even make the playoffs.

Other players have to stand up. How many 30+ ab does jeter have in the last 2 years without a hit?

I'm definitely not a jeter basher, but the double standards are beyond belief. Put the teams jeter had for the world champions teams he played for alex and I'm sure we still would have won them, we had great pitching as well then.

Pay arod at 30 mil a season, the rest of the batting lineup needs to take a pay cut. They have sucked.

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