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Boras puts indirect blame on Mo for Arod's PS failures
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 5:57 pm
by cmaff051
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... r_at_.html
On ESPN's "First Take" show yesterday, Boras made the mistake of trying to defend A-Rod's failures in the postseason as some sort of twisted media perspective that needed correcting.
He even blamed Mariano Rivera as a cause for A-Rod's problems, which may be the height of desperation.
The question posed to Boras was why Rodriguez's regular-season numbers haven't translated to postseason success.
"That's a characterization that, when you look at the data, is frankly inaccurate," Boras said. "If you look at Alex's first season in New York, I believe he was 7-for-16 with two home runs and five RBIs going into Game 4 in Boston.
"The brilliant Mariano Rivera, probably the only flaw he's made in a historic career over the postseason, if he got those three outs (in the ninth inning of Game 4), Alex would have been in the World Series and he would have been held to have a great postseason.
"When you look at his records with Seattle - and even this year - you're talking about a player whose postseason records are really up there with many of the superstars of the game."
For some reason, the interviewer did not respond with some obvious follow-up questions. Like:
What about Games 5, 6, and 7 against the Red Sox, when even one clutch hit, particularly in Games 5 and 6, might have changed everything?
What about 2005 against the Angels?
What about 2006 against the Tigers?
What about Games 1 and 2 against the Indians last month, when the ALDS essentially was decided?
You gotta be kidding me, Boras.
How about all the times Mariano has bailed out the Yankees in the playoffs - or even in the regular season - and Arod wasn't able to capitalize.
Boras is something else.
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:39 pm
by nykgeneralmanager
It is pathetic how much Boras has to talk on ARod's behalf, it really kills ARod's credibility not only as a baseball player but as a human being. It makes ARod look downright pathetic, pretty sad that such a legendary player has to have his personality.
It's funny that all year ARod only talked about how he lets his baseball do the talking, and here is Boras making comments on a daily basis trying to make ARod look good.
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:07 pm
by Pharmcat
these are unncessary cheap shots
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:50 pm
by TKF
what a joke, mariano has 4 rings, and undenaible post season greatness, along achieving such greatness, there will be some bumps in the road, but to put that on MO is a damn joke, I think the follow up questions pretty much summed up how bad his client has been in post season. game 5,6,7 especially...
But Alex is joined at the hip with this shyt stain boras, so to me, this is as much comming out of Alex's mouth as far as I am concerned.... anyone who has this clown as an agent is soley concerned about money, and not about winning....
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:24 pm
by rappa
The funny thing is, he has to go back too 2004 to talk about success, yet his final stats that year werent any good because he sucked d-i-c-k in games5, 6 and 7
Posted: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:45 pm
by HCYanks
rappa wrote:The funny thing is, he has to go back too 2004 to talk about success, yet his final stats that year werent any good because he sucked d-i-c-k in games5, 6 and 7
.258/.378/.516 for the series. Not mind-blowing, but better than most players put up over the course of a season.
That said, Boras really needs to shut up at this point. This isn't helping A-Rod pull in that big contract elsewhere.
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 12:10 am
by ManicBullsFan
How did jeter do? The last 5 years? Yea i thought so...
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 12:33 am
by cmaff051
ManicBullsFan wrote:How did jeter do? The last 5 years? Yea i thought so...
Jeter
83 AB
24 H
5 2B
3 HR
12 RBI
.289 AVG
.352 OBP
.458 SLG
.810 OPS
Arod
75 AB
15 H
9 1B
3 2B
3 HR
5 RBI
.200 AVG
.310 OBP
.360 SLG
.670 OPS
Not really a comparision at all.
Jeter has thoroughly outclassed Arod despite being the inferior player.
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 12:46 am
by ManicBullsFan
cmaff051 wrote:Jeter
83 AB
24 H
5 2B
3 HR
12 RBI
.289 AVG
.352 OBP
.458 SLG
.810 OPS
Arod
75 AB
15 H
9 1B
3 2B
3 HR
5 RBI
.200 AVG
.310 OBP
.360 SLG
.670 OPS
Not really a comparision at all. Jeter has thoroughly outclassed Arod despite being the inferior player.
Your right those numbers are stellar
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 12:48 am
by cmaff051
ManicBullsFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Your right those numbers are stellar
These are numbers from the 2004 ALCS until present...Jeter has been very good, while Arod has been downright teribble.
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 3:35 am
by TKF
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
These are numbers from the 2004 ALCS until present...Jeter has been very good, while Arod has been downright teribble.
jeter also has 4 rings and was the 2000 allstar MVP and WS MVP... so really Jeter has proven he can get it done in post season. Not every player is going to have a great postseason every time out, but jeter has shown that he can be great when he is on and consisten to very good at his worst..
what has A-rod shown us?
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 3:47 am
by cmaff051
TKF wrote:
what has A-rod shown us?
That he can strike out on 3 pitches
twice to Paul Byrd in an elimination game?
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 4:07 am
by TKF
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
That he can strike out on 3 pitches twice to Paul Byrd in an elimination game?
you know what. that just goes to show that A-rod has not gotten past the mental. guys like manny who has the brain of a flea, really doesn't let things bother him and that is because he is just too stupid, but that works in manny's favor, he can go 0-15, and get up there and Boom!! a grand slam, he never lets the previous at bat bother him. For A-rod to strike out like that to paul byrd who throws trash, and couldn't break a window with his slow tossing crap, shows you he hasn't gotten past the mental, and sometimes that is worse than being overmatched. Heck any batter who is overmatched can step into a 95mph fastball, but when you are mentally defeated, you are done, and in post season he is mentally defeated...
Posted: Fri Nov 2, 2007 4:23 am
by ManicBullsFan
without A-Rod the yanks woudn't have even made to postseason.
Ah whatever, i'm just pissed that both torre and arod are gone, but it's time to move foward i guess.
Posted: Mon Nov 5, 2007 6:00 pm
by sully00
ManicBullsFan wrote:without A-Rod the yanks woudn't have even made to postseason.
Ah whatever, i'm just pissed that both torre and arod are gone, but it's time to move foward i guess.
This is nonsense. While ARod finally stopped gagging in the clutch this season the Yankees didn't need to lead the league by a 100 runs to make the playoffs. Any decent middle of the line up hitter would have had the necessary impact to put this team in the postseason.
I will miss Joe ... ARod not so much.
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:36 am
by mets87
sully00 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
This is nonsense. While ARod finally stopped gagging in the clutch this season the Yankees didn't need to lead the league by a 100 runs to make the playoffs. Any decent middle of the line up hitter would have had the necessary impact to put this team in the postseason.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:54 am
by Knicks 316
mets87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Mets board is calling.