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Put up your best proposal for Cabrera
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 9:30 pm
by Pharmcat
he is on the market, so, whats the best package you are willing to give up for him? per the wiretap, marlins want one of ian, joba, phil
so, question is simple, how much are you willing to give up for Cabrera?
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:00 pm
by PR07
Kennedy, Melky, Tabata.
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:18 pm
by theknicks414
Kennedy, Melky, Eric Duncan for Miggy
Sign Torii Hunter
L Johnny Damon LF
R Derek Jeter SS
L Bobby Abreu RF
R Miguel Cabrera 3B
L Robinson Cano 2B
S Jorge Posada C
L Hideki Matsui DH
R Torii Hunter CF
L Wilson Betemit/ R Shelley Duncan 1B
Rotation
Wang
Pettitte
Hughes
Joba
Mussina (Horne/Marquez in the wings in case he sucks)
oh hell yeah.
Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:25 pm
by Pugsley_2491
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^^^ nothing because I don't want him
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 12:03 am
by ohboy109
I would deal Wang, and maybe Cabrera..don't really trust Wang as a big game pitcher.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 12:17 am
by theknicks414
check it
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 12:30 am
by Flash3
Hughes, Cabrera and a 2nd tier prospect?
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 12:33 am
by cmaff051
Flash3 wrote:Hughes, Cabrera and a 2nd tier prospect?
I could certainly see that trade getting done... although Cashman will do his best to try and move away from Hughes and put in the pitcher with less upside, Ian Kennedy, and add a Jose Tabata.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 2:13 am
by maseda17
Its pointless to trade prized prospects when teams like New York and Boston can leverage money. Don't trade away your top young talent when you can simply sign guys. You don't need to fill the hot corner with a power hitter when you have such a good offense anyway. Besides Miggy will be in LF by 09.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 2:54 am
by cmaff051
maseda17 wrote:Its pointless to trade prized prospects when teams like New York and Boston can leverage money. Don't trade away your top young talent when you can simply sign guys. You don't need to fill the hot corner with a power hitter when you have such a good offense anyway. Besides Miggy will be in LF by 09.
The Yankees may or may not score many runs next year, but they have to start to rebuild their offensive core. All our main offensive threats are old and starting to leave their primes. The Yankees need to start acquiring, developing and trading for young offensive players. Cabrera is a great start, he is only 24, and there is no guarentee he hits free agency...
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:02 am
by HCYanks
But apparently a pitcher whose peak is as a #3 starter is too much to give up for him.
Sigh.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:04 am
by cmaff051
HCYanks wrote:But apparently a pitcher whose peak is as a #3 starter is too much to give up for him.
Sigh.
Cashman is just bluffing here, he's trying to build up Kennedy's percieved value, there is absolutely no way Ian Kennedy holds up a Miggy Cabrera deal.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:10 am
by Pharmcat
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The Yankees may or may not score many runs next year, but they have to start to rebuild their offensive core. All our main offensive threats are old and starting to leave their primes. The Yankees need to start acquiring, developing and trading for young offensive players. Cabrera is a great start, he is only 24, and there is no guarentee he hits free agency...
pitching over hitting any day, id rather keep the young pitchers
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:18 am
by rappa
I'm sorry but if we have to give up ian kennedy for cabrera, im all for it. As much as a i love kennedy, look at cabreras career #'s and then compare them to Arods. Just think, the number he puts up with absolutely NO protection and in probably top 5 worst hitter parks in the league? please bring him here, let jeter teach him how to keep his body in line and he will be a hall of famer
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:21 am
by cmaff051
The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
pitching over hitting any day, id rather keep the young pitchers
Yankees will always have money to spend on acquiring pitchers and especially drafting them. It's also important that Cashman looks ahead and tries to acquire/draft/trade talented young hitters who will become our next hitting core over the next 10 years. Because that will be a very real problem for us in the next few years if we do nothing to address it. Jeter, Damon, Matsui and Posada aren't young anymore, somewhere down the line we are going to have to acquire young talent to replace them.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:41 am
by Pugsley_2491
cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yankees will always have money to spend on acquiring pitchers and especially drafting them. It's also important that Cashman looks ahead and tries to acquire/draft/trade talented young hitters who will become our next hitting core over the next 10 years. Because that will be a very real problem for us in the next few years if we do nothing to address it. Jeter, Damon, Matsui and Posada aren't young anymore, somewhere down the line we are going to have to acquire young talent to replace them.
...just look at how that's worked out for us the past few years (there are too many examples: wright, pavano, brown, vazquez, contreras, r johnson, small, chacon etc.) we finally have something good working for us in developing these young pitchers who by the way are ready to compete at the major league level and it would be a mistake to trade them away for some hitting
prospects You have it the other way around, there is always money for hitters but it's been proven that you need homegrown pitchers to get the job done.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:44 am
by PR07
The Yankees have enough pitchers in the wings, that they can afford to trade an Ian Kennedy I feel. They'd still have Hughes, Joba, Horne, Marquez, Brackman, Humberto Sanchez, Bentances, etc.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 4:03 am
by Pugsley_2491
they can afford to give up kennedy no doubt but to give up joba and/or hughes for hitting prospects would be ridiculous
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 4:05 am
by cmaff051
Pugsley_2491 wrote:they can afford to give up kennedy no doubt but to give up joba and/or hughes for hitting prospects would be ridiculous
When did anybody ever say that? No way the Yankees give up Joba or Hughes for hitting prospects.
Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 4:13 am
by PR07
No way I trade Joba or Hughes, period.