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Jake Peavy

Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:26 pm
by Pugsley_2491
I don't know if anyone just watched sportscenter, but Buster Olney said there was a possible deal of melky and hughes for Jake Peavy. Would you do it?

Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:32 pm
by Pharmcat
no!

im done with getting NL pitchers to pitch in the AL

Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:43 pm
by Pugsley_2491
If somehow, and i know this is a realllll stretch, but if we could snag him for like kennedy and horne and maybe one other good pitching prospect then obviously we do it. haha idk i just have this thing about giving up melky and hughes especially hughes though because melky could be replaced this year with the extensive market of CF's. He would be our counterpart to Beckett too. Then again we can hope he doesn't re-sign with the padres because he will be a FA next year. I say we don't give up too many of our draft picks this year and just purge our picks next year because of all the talent on the market that we'll most likely have to give them up for if we sign them haha.

Posted: Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:46 pm
by cmaff051
No thank you. I really don't like Jake Peavy. I'm not a big fan of two pitch pitchers who have played in a terrible division and in a big-time pitcher's park their entire career.

Bedard, Peavy... I don't want to touch these guys. Give me Santana or Sabathia.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 12:05 am
by theknicks414
lol Olney is talking out of his ass. Hughes will be a Yankee for life.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 1:47 am
by TKF
cmaff051 wrote:No thank you. I really don't like Jake Peavy. I'm not a big fan of two pitch pitchers who have played in a terrible division and in a big-time pitcher's park their entire career.

Bedard, Peavy... I don't want to touch these guys. Give me Santana or Sabathia.


yea, i don't believe that, Hughes IMO can be better than peavy in a few years, if not sooner. peavy may throw a tad bit harder but hughes has like 3 pitches he can throw for strikes at any time.. No thanks..

Now I do like bedard, he is one nasty lefty...

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 1:54 am
by Pharmcat
heck, if we gonna trade phil, might as well go knocking to Min and offer him in a package for Santana

if that doesnt work, id go and offer a package for kazmir

id do those 2 b4 looking at peavy

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 2:11 am
by maseda17
Guys Peavy is a strikeout pitcher, that will translate with the transition to the AL. I think Hughes does in fact have a higher ceiling but Peavy would still be your 20 game winner and #1 starter.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 3:45 am
by PR07
Pass. Trading Hughes would be a mistake.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 6:52 am
by VinnyTheMick
No thanks.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 1:41 pm
by Slamm Goodbody
Cash said this week his commitment to youth was going to be tested hard this offseason, looks like he was right.

I wouldn't do it. Hughes is a gamer and too young to lose. Maybe they're interested in a Wang-Melky package though...

Re: Jake Peavy

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 4:26 pm
by #1knickfan
Pugsley_2491 wrote:I don't know if anyone just watched sportscenter, but Buster Olney said there was a possible deal of melky and hughes for Jake Peavy. Would you do it?

Why settle for Peavy when we could build upon a package of Melky and Hughes to make an offer for Santana?

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 4:49 pm
by Chach
We are talking about the same Jake Peavy, right? The 26 year old, one of the best sliders in baseball, ERA under 3 Jake Peavy, right? I understand the desire to reach for Santana but there are reports coming out that Santana may not actually be available anymore because if Silva leaves, Boof Bosner would be their #1 pitcher. So, if that's the case, wouldn't it make sense to pick up your own Josh Beckett? If they offer the Sox Peavy for Buchholz and Ellsbury, I'd balk just like you guys at his soon to be FA but if I could negotiate a long term deal for him, I'd really have to think hard about saying no. mahalo
~Chach~

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:30 pm
by 34Celtic
Chach wrote:We are talking about the same Jake Peavy, right? The 26 year old, one of the best sliders in baseball, ERA under 3 Jake Peavy, right? I understand the desire to reach for Santana but there are reports coming out that Santana may not actually be available anymore because if Silva leaves, Boof Bosner would be their #1 pitcher. So, if that's the case, wouldn't it make sense to pick up your own Josh Beckett? If they offer the Sox Peavy for Buchholz and Ellsbury, I'd balk just like you guys at his soon to be FA but if I could negotiate a long term deal for him, I'd really have to think hard about saying no. mahalo
~Chach~


But you dont realize...around here Hughes is on a different level than any prospect in baseball....I don't necessarily agree with it but thats the way it is.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:33 pm
by TKF
34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



But you dont realize...around here Hughes is on a different level than any prospect in baseball....I don't necessarily agree with it but thats the way it is.


He is one of the top, if not the top pitching prospect in baseball, so doesn't that put him on another level? huh?

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:36 pm
by Chach
In terms of raw talent, Hughes may not have a peer in baseball prospectdom. But his inability to stay healthy, for whatever reasons, knocks him down a notch or two to "human" levels. I think both Buchholz and Joba gained a lot of ground on Hughes and that "best pitching prospect in baseball" tag is up for grabs. mahalo
~Chach~

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:37 pm
by 34Celtic
Chach wrote:In terms of raw talent, Hughes may not have a peer in baseball prospectdom. But his inability to stay healthy, for whatever reasons, knocks him down a notch or two to "human" levels. I think both Buchholz and Joba gained a lot of ground on Hughes and that "best pitching prospect in baseball" tag is up for grabs. mahalo
~Chach~


Exactly, and to say he is untradable....no matter the package is a little out there.

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:45 pm
by Jitpal
Chach wrote:In terms of raw talent, Hughes may not have a peer in baseball prospectdom. But his inability to stay healthy, for whatever reasons, knocks him down a notch or two to "human" levels. I think both Buchholz and Joba gained a lot of ground on Hughes and that "best pitching prospect in baseball" tag is up for grabs. mahalo
~Chach~

I'm not ready to say he has an inability to stay healthy. He pulled his hamstring in the 7th inning of a no-hitter. Most people, including myself, believe he was just pressing and didn't mind his footing properly and pulled it. The ankle sprain was during recovery when he was jogging in the outfield, a complete freak injury. There were concerns of his shoulder a long time ago so they got him away from relying on that slider so it wouldn't strain that shoulder. Since they did that, he hasn't had the slightest issue. 3 completely unrelated injuries. I think it was just a fluke and he will be fine next year. -Jitpal

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 5:48 pm
by Jitpal
34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Exactly, and to say he is untradable....no matter the package is a little out there.

Cashman didn't say he was untouchable he just said that there were different levels of untouchables and that some were more untouchable than others. I would not trade him for Miguel Cabrera or Johan Santana but that's just me. I would deal him in a package that got us Johan Santana and more though. -Jitpal

Posted: Thu Nov 8, 2007 7:28 pm
by swisscheeseD
Peavy reminds me of David Cone....

ive always wanted this man on my squad...and id be willing to part with ian kennedy and melky...

i honestly believe that the yanks FO will NOT trade Joba or Hughes...