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What rotation do the Yankees use next year?
Posted: Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:38 pm
by Jitpal
Fresh post on Pete's blog. Excellent, forward thinking. We keep the vets fresh and keep the innings in control for the kids. Girardi is going to do wonders to this team. -Jitpal
EDIT: Changed the topic to open up a broader discussion, since Abraham fails at blogging.
-HC
Posted: Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:41 pm
by Pharmcat
Cash and Giaridi know how to role
you go with Wang, Andy, Phil, Joba, Kennedy
and then you got Moose and Horne on the wings when injury or inning limitations kick in
Posted: Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:51 pm
by a-rod
its unconventional but im fine with it as long as translate to more wins
and fresh legs comes playoff time.
Posted: Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:53 pm
by southampton
yeah its worth a try, but talking about rotations in december?? a lot can change
Posted: Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:55 pm
by Chach
Who exactly will the six man rotation be? I know the Sox are kicking around the idea as well. That looks like an alright rotation, especially with Joba and Phil's innings limits. I know Schilling and Wakefield will benefit from it next season, I'm sure Andy and Mussina will as well. mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:04 am
by Jitpal
Chach wrote:Who exactly will the six man rotation be? I know the Sox are kicking around the idea as well. That looks like an alright rotation, especially with Joba and Phil's innings limits. I know Schilling and Wakefield will benefit from it next season, I'm sure Andy and Mussina will as well. mahalo
~Chach~
I'm guessing it will be Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Kennedy, Hughes, Joba. Or if they trade one, I assume Igawa could slot in as well. Obviously any major deal could change all of this. -Jitpal
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:06 am
by Jitpal
Scratch this whole thread. Peter had a typo and meant to put a "not" in front of 6-man rotation. So 5-man rotation. -Jitpal
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:07 am
by Pugsley_2491
pettitte, hughes, wang, joba, kennedy, then the sixth could be moose/horne/igawa or whoever the hottest minor leaguer at the time is (which was the case when chase wright was called up)
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:11 am
by 34Celtic
Can someone delete or lock this thread?
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:27 am
by Chach
You could edit the title and discuss the merits of a 6 man rotation. I think, with young and old pitchers (like both the Sox and Yankees have), for a season it makes some sense. It limits the young kids innings and allows everyone an extra side session between every start. That helps keep everyone strong and healthy. I think in 2009, they go back to a 5 man rotation but this coming season, it could make some sense. At some point, someone's going to get hurt and they will revert to a 5 man rotation again. I kind of like the idea. mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 12:45 am
by 34Celtic
Does Pettitte really need an extra days rest? Maybe yes, maybe no....but its better than throwing Igawa out there every 6th day......what are the possibilities of us keeping Pettitte and Wang on a regular scheduling, but juggling the young 3 and Moose.
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 2:22 am
by Chach
An extra days rest allows you to have another side session between starts and this helps keep your arm strong throughout the season. Pettitte is getting older so any little thing that the Yankees can do to help keep him strong mid-season will benefit them in the long run.
The type of guy that stands to gain the least is Wang who is a "veteran" (meaning he's thrown 200 innings and isn't on a pitch count) and is still young that the extra rest isn't a tremendous benefit. But with Hughes and Joba on pitch count, not exactly sure what will happen with Kennedy (he's a young pitcher so who knows), and older guys like Moose/Pettitte, it might not be a bad idea. Those are a lot of the same reasons I like it for the Sox. Schilling and Wake are old, Buchholz is on an innings count, and Beckett threw more innings last year than he ever has. The Cleveland series showed that keeping your staff fresh is very important in the playoffs. mahalo
~Chach~
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 2:28 am
by Lconte17
with the young guys in the rotation id go with a 6man rotation to start. u throw out Wang, Andy, Hughes, Joba, Moose, the kennedy. itll give the young guys that extra days rest, itll limit the usage on them so they dont burn out come sept/oct.
if we get a player like santana [looking unlikely] i dont see a 6man rotation happening cause hell wanan pitch every 5. slot in a haren/sheets/bedard type and a 6man rotation would work well as long as they dont move two of those young guys
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 2:31 am
by Pugsley_2491
6 man rotation would be pretty ideal if we somehow got sheets
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 2:58 am
by 34Celtic
Johan
Pettitte
Wang
Ian
Moose
Rivera
Joba
Vizcaino
Farnsworthless / Bruney / Edwar / Igawa
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:07 am
by Curmudgeon
The wildcard is Humberto Sanchez. Mussina is probably finished, even as #5 starter.
It's going to be Wang, Pettite, Hughes and Kennedy, with the 5th slot up in the air. It could be Sanchez, or Igawa, or Mussina. It could be Chamberlian if they move him out of the bullpen. Or it could be someone they acquire between now and next April.
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:15 am
by Lconte17
i like Humberto Sanchez, i think hell pitch similar to CC. start of slow but get better and better. Not saying hell be CC but i think Sanchez can be a GREAT #3 in the yankees rotation. for years to come.
remember he was det third best prospect behind Cam Maybin and Andrew miller. before we nabbed him
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:20 am
by Curmudgeon
Yes, but also before Sanchez had Tommy John surgery.
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:32 am
by Lconte17
people can come back from TJ surgery and dominate. See Chris Carpenter, See Jon Lieber...
Posted: Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:33 am
by 34Celtic
Lconte17 wrote:people can come back from TJ surgery and dominate. See Chris Carpenter, See Jon Lieber...
Ummmm maybe you should use better examples. Carpenter got hurt again and missed almost all of last year, and since when has Leiber dominated?