Rumors..

Post #21 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:18 pm

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:LOL at the mention of Kalian Sams; he did really poorly in Everett this year and I barely saw him as much of a project.

He had an IsoP of .189 and a wOBA of .310 at Everett, second only to wunderkind Halman* in both stats. He's 21, which is average age for that level, but it's only his first full year playing stateside. He's a rangy athletic type with a good, projectable body.

*hippe, Halman may have struggled at high-A but he's still only 20 and tore up Everett. Everybody has been raving about the progress he's made at the plate this season. Have faith: he may be a top-10 prospect on this team next season.

Post #22 » by **Sweezo** » Mon Oct 1, 2007 6:47 am

hippie wrote:
P - There is some front-line talent here, but most of those players are at least a few years away: Tillman, Butler, Aumont. The system has recently sent some good second-tier bullpen prospects, and one potential front-line starting prospect (Morrow), to the majors. There are some more secondary prospects in the pipeline who are probably ready for the Show now or will be very soon: Kameron Mickolio, Justin Thomas, Travis Chick, Andy Barb, Andrew Baldwin, Robert Rorbaugh. Of course, what we'd like most is top-tier starters who are close to the majors, and that's what we lack, unless you put Morrow in that category.

Hopefully Bavasi realizes that one of the strengths of this year's team was it's bullpen...which was largely built through the farm system and role players cast away from other farm systems. Does he realize what's worked and see which of the AAA/AA pitchers will be able to contribute to the pen during spring training next year, or does he spend a few million on another needless gamble like Reitsma? Or perhaps go grab another cheap vet castoff like Rick White who will needlessly **** us over?

I don't see any likely top tier starters, but are there at least some pitchers in the system, or options in the pen that could be stretched out to at least provide an upgrade over Weaver and Ramirez? I mean, honestly, how many wins do you add to the year if you replaced those two with league average pitching? Enough to get into the postseason this year?

Ex-hippie · Post #23 » by **Ex-hippie** » Mon Oct 1, 2007 3:21 pm

Sweezo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Does he realize what's worked and see which of the AAA/AA pitchers will be able to contribute to the pen during spring training next year, or does he spend a few million on another needless gamble like Reitsma? Or perhaps go grab another cheap vet castoff like Rick White who will needlessly **** us over?

Exactly right.

Relievers who made positive contributions to the team this year: Putz, Sherrill, Green, Morrow, O'Flaherty, Rowland-Smith. All are 100% homegrown, except Green who was acquired as a prospect. All had an ERA+ of at least 100, except O'Flaherty, whose ERA+ was 96 due mainly to fatigue and three bad appearances in September (his ERA+ was 119 at the end of August and 131 at the end of July).

Relievers who ****ed us over: Reitsma, White, Jason Davis, John Parrish, Jake Woods, Julio Mateo. All on the roster because management thinks it's important to load up on Proven Veterans.

If there's a positive, now that the guys on list #1 are themselves Proven Veterans, they'll all stick around? I'll be quite happy if the six players (3 righties and 3 lefties) make up the opening day bullpen next year.

Post #24 » by **BlackMamba** » Mon Oct 1, 2007 6:44 pm

yuck, what a sad story.

b_roy7 · Post #27 » by **b_roy7** » Wed Oct 3, 2007 12:20 am

Found this on USS Mariner. Brilliant.

The day after the announcement, the local writers weigh in.

Larry Stone: Mariners Go for Stability.

Stone writes a straight news story instead of the opinion column, getting some solid quotes from all involved.

Tim Lehrbach wrote:I will break the Rose Garden.