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What the Mariners (read: Bavasi) need to do is recognize that Johjima, despite being Japanese and a good defensive catcher, is unlikely to improve upon 2006 in his age 33 season and cut bait at the trading deadline. Will they do it? No. Nintendo money is strong in these parts.
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Basketball Jesus wrote:What the Mariners (read: Bavasi) need to do is recognize that Johjima, despite being Japanese and a good defensive catcher, is unlikely to improve upon 2006 in his age 33 season and cut bait at the trading deadline. Will they do it? No. Nintendo money is strong in these parts.
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Basketball Jesus wrote:What the Mariners (read: Bavasi) need to do is recognize that Johjima, despite being Japanese and a good defensive catcher, is unlikely to improve upon 2006 in his age 33 season and cut bait at the trading deadline. Will they do it? No. Nintendo money is strong in these parts.
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They should let Clement DH and let Balentien take over the RF spot.
Easy as that.
Why can't you do it Bavasi?
I don't mind the Kenji move. His defense is top-notch and is a very solid hitter at the catcher position. He is not a .200 hitter and will hit around .300 by the end of the year.
Easy as that.
Why can't you do it Bavasi?
I don't mind the Kenji move. His defense is top-notch and is a very solid hitter at the catcher position. He is not a .200 hitter and will hit around .300 by the end of the year.
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Remember Jesus Guzman? Probably not. Hell, I forgot who he was. Well, he's tearing up Dub-A this season...for Oakland.
Guzman was originally a NDFA from Venezuela signed under Gillick
Guzman was originally a NDFA from Venezuela signed under Gillick
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Hunh? When the heck did the Mariners get Victor Diaz? Interesting. And he's mashing at Tacoma already.
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BBJ, I have a question for you related to your Gillick/Bavasi comparison post:
When was the last time a Mariners draftee in the 10th round or later made the big league squad? Hell, in the eighth round.
By your account, Gillick mailed in every draft after the second round, and Bavasi mailed every draft in after the third round. In a draft with 50 rounds chock full of prospects I don't understand how Seattle has such an appallingly low success rate with players drafted in the rounds beginning with high single digits.
When was the last time a Mariners draftee in the 10th round or later made the big league squad? Hell, in the eighth round.
By your account, Gillick mailed in every draft after the second round, and Bavasi mailed every draft in after the third round. In a draft with 50 rounds chock full of prospects I don't understand how Seattle has such an appallingly low success rate with players drafted in the rounds beginning with high single digits.
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You have to realize how rare it is for a later-round (5th on) draftee from any team to make it all the way to a major league roster. The odds aren
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Huh, I always liked Victor Diaz. He always hit well with the Mets, then it was like he had a bad couple of weeks and suddenly his career was over. He could help.
Another guy who's hitting well at AAA is Oswaldo Navarro. I've been ignoring Navarro ever since the good-glove-no-hit label was applied to him. If it turns out Navarro can hit a little, he'll be a legit prospect again.
Another guy who's hitting well at AAA is Oswaldo Navarro. I've been ignoring Navarro ever since the good-glove-no-hit label was applied to him. If it turns out Navarro can hit a little, he'll be a legit prospect again.
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That's fair. I'm well aware that anyone drafted basically after the 15th round has little shot to make it, but there are still a lot of niche players who find a role with a team and work their way through. And, occasionally, you get a Mike Piazza. Of course, Boston and Atlanta are just going insane in the MLB draft, but you'd think the Mariners would have at least the desire to "go deep".
15th? Try after the fifth. That
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Ex-hippie wrote:Huh, I always liked Victor Diaz. He always hit well with the Mets, then it was like he had a bad couple of weeks and suddenly his career was over. He could help.
I really don
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Re the amateur draft: I think the best way to get value after the first 5 rounds is to take a shot at the players who might be projected higher but slip due to signability issues. I remember hearing this was how the Yankees got Don Mattingly -- he would have been a much higher pick but everyone assumed he was going to college, but the Yankees got him to sign. (He went in the 19th round, the year the M's took Al Chambers #1 overall. Orel Hershiser was a 17th round pick that year, BTW.) The M's took a similar shot at Rich Harden, and it didn't work out, but the thought was the right one: the potential payoff was potentially huge, and the cost was the waste of a pick that wasn't likely to pan out anyway.
I should add: although this might be a way to maximize the likelihood of getting late-round value, it's not necessarily the economical way to go. To get such a player to sign, you'll almost certainly have to pay him "over slot" by a wide margin.
I should add: although this might be a way to maximize the likelihood of getting late-round value, it's not necessarily the economical way to go. To get such a player to sign, you'll almost certainly have to pay him "over slot" by a wide margin.
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That used to be a sound idea. The only problem now is big-money teams like Boston and New York are realizing how cost-efficient the draft is and are snatching up those tough-signs early on and they
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