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Well, it
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:40 am
by Sweezo
Basketball Jesus wrote:I think including Sherrill in the Bedard deal may be a blessing (albeit a very minor one) in disguise: the team
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:24 pm
by Basketball Jesus
I really don't know you'd be able to stick Ramirez: he's certainly not good enough to crack the rotation and the pen is one huge clusterf*ck of talent; he's probably not good enough to crack that squad either.
I'm guessing some mysterious injury shuts him down before the end of ST and he sees some extended spring training time before becoming the #1 call up from Tacoma.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:21 pm
by MrNate
What about Cairo, I mean I know he sucks, but don't you think he'll make the roster?
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:21 pm
by TheUrbanZealot
Basketball Jesus wrote:I really don't know you'd be able to stick Ramirez: he's certainly not good enough to crack the rotation and the pen is one huge clusterf*ck of talent; he's probably not good enough to crack that squad either.
I'm guessing some mysterious injury shuts him down before the end of ST and he sees some extended spring training time before becoming the #1 call up from Tacoma.
There is no reason Ramirez should take any innings away from RRS. RRS, in my opinion, is on the verge of stardom. Ramirez is an ultra soft throwing lefty that doesn't bring half of what RRS brings.
The trade seriously blew up in Bavasi's face. The only reason why it wasn't more glaring is because our pen was solid.
Cut Ramirez, or send him to the minors.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:49 pm
by Basketball Jesus
MrNate wrote:What about Cairo, I mean I know he sucks, but don't you think he'll make the roster?
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:51 pm
by Basketball Jesus
TheUrbanZealot wrote:
There is no reason Ramirez should take any innings away from RRS. RRS, in my opinion, is on the verge of stardom. Ramirez is an ultra soft throwing lefty that doesn't bring half of what RRS brings.
The trade seriously blew up in Bavasi's face. The only reason why it wasn't more glaring is because our pen was solid.
Cut Ramirez, or send him to the minors.
Amen. Really, the only reason the Mariners should be giving Ramirez innings is if they
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:00 pm
by Ex-hippie
TheUrbanZealot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
There is no reason Ramirez should take any innings away from RRS. RRS, in my opinion, is on the verge of stardom. Ramirez is an ultra soft throwing lefty that doesn't bring half of what RRS brings.
The trade seriously blew up in Bavasi's face. The only reason why it wasn't more glaring is because our pen was solid.
Cut Ramirez, or send him to the minors.
"Stardom" may be a bit of a strong term, but I generally agree.
I fear that Bavasi will stubbornly refuse to admit his mistake, keeping Ramirez on the roster far longer than is warranted.
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:59 am
by Bulltalk
Seems about right. I will be interested to see how Balentien and Clement work out for us this year. I'll also be interested in if/when Morrow might get a chance at starting this year.
There are players in the lineup who I'm hoping will surprise me a bit this year. Beltre and Lopez are two of them. We'll need to be surprised by a few hitters this year to have a chance.
Posted: Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:29 am
by MrNate
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/ma ... 96577.html
McLaren got Cairo so he could use bloomquist more! This is horrible :/
This means that Morse will probaby bite it, and leave us through waivers, because he's out of options.
Posted: Tue Mar 4, 2008 7:04 pm
by Basketball Jesus
I edited the title to make this more of a spring training catch-all.
Speaking of: apparently Wlad Bal (we really need a nick for him) took umbrage with me leaving him off the 25-man. Dude
Posted: Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:59 pm
by Bay_Areas_Finest
I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually like Mike Morse. =/ I mean, he'll never be a great fielder (Wherever he plays), but he's got a pretty nice stroke, and I think he could put up some decent power numbers if given enough at-bats.
I like him a hell of a lot more than hacks like Cairo and Reed, I know that much. Reed's got a glove, and thats about it.
Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 9:11 am
by Sweezo
MrNate wrote:http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/mariners/story/296577.html
McLaren got Cairo so he could use bloomquist more! This is horrible :/
This means that Morse will probaby bite it, and leave us through waivers, because he's out of options.
And there's a big article on the P-I which basically extols the virtues of this team having a veteran bench. This is priceless...
"First of all, veteran guys have been there before, they know the flow of the game and they know how to make things happen," Mariners manager John McLaren said. "Kids are still trying to figure out how to play the game. There are certain situations when you have to go with a kid, but you'd like veterans in that role if you can have them."
Seattle made one move toward a veteran bench with the offseason signing of shortstop/second baseman Miguel Cairo, whose teams have been in the playoffs four times since 2001. The Mariners have been in the postseason once in that same span -- in 2001, when the bench included veterans Jay Buhner, Stan Javier and Tom Lampkin.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/353745_mari05.html
That seems dangerously close to saying Cairo had something to do with those playoff teams being in said playoffs. Which he didn't, because he's garbage.
Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:32 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Bay_Areas_Finest wrote:I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually like Mike Morse. =/ I mean, he'll never be a great fielder (Wherever he plays), but he's got a pretty nice stroke, and I think he could put up some decent power numbers if given enough at-bats.
As far as off-the-bench bats go, it's hard not to like Morse. He's got some pop in his bat, isn't averse to taking a walk, and absolutely rakes righties. He's versatile enough to play both corner OF spots as well as fill in admirably at third or first in a pinch...I could go on.
But, hey! Miguel Cairo! Veteran leadership off the bench.
I like him a hell of a lot more than hacks like Cairo and Reed, I know that much. Reed's got a glove, and thats about it.
I like Reed and I think he got a raw deal in terms of sticking with the club. Sure, he didn't turn out to be the CF stud people thought he'd become but he's still somewhat useful as a 4th-OF type.
Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:09 pm
by Ex-hippie
"First of all, veteran guys have been there before, they know the flow of the game and they know how to make things happen," Mariners manager John McLaren said. "Kids are still trying to figure out how to play the game. There are certain situations when you have to go with a kid, but you'd like veterans in that role if you can have them."
Ain't that the truth. Rookies are like my six-year-old daughter in T-ball, who hit the ball and then looked back at me, wondering which way to run, then finally ran a zig-zag path to first while holding the bat with one hand and holding down her helmet with the other hand. You have to be in the majors for at least five years before you really learn how to play this very difficult game. Only a wily veteran like Tom Lampkin would understand.
