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Post#1 » by Basketball Jesus » Wed May 28, 2008 7:53 pm

Yeah, I know it
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Post#2 » by Basketball Jesus » Wed May 28, 2008 8:13 pm

Oh man, it gets worse. Paul DePodesta (you know, as in Fat Plaschke-exiled former Dodger GM Paul DePodesta), current assistant something in San Diego, has this to say about the deal on his blog:

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/ ... wells.html


We've been keeping tabs on Baek dating back to late last year, as we do with all players who will be out of minor league options in the coming season. In this particular case, we also knew (as did everyone) that the Mariners had a very deep pitching staff, and that Baek would be fighting for a spot on the team. When the Mariners acquired Bedard, we inquired about Baek again, but the Mariners really wanted to keep him. Fortunately, we saw a lot of Baek during spring training (we share a spring training complex with the Mariners in Peoria, AZ), and our scout, Bill Bryk, really liked him and recommended that we continue our attempts to acquire him. Nevertheless, we couldn't work out a deal, and Baek opened the season on Seattle's roster.



So, confirmation that Baek was generating interest as early as late last season.

We believe Baek is a very good strike-thrower with all of his pitches (Fastball, Curveball, Slider, and Change), which keeps hitters off balance and makes him effective. Our scouts also believe that he pitched a little better than his ERA would indicate from last year. According to the FIP statistic, a defense-independant statistic developed by Tom Tango and utilized by The Hardball Times, Baek had been getting better in each of his past three ML seasons (2004-2007), which goes hand-in-hand with our scouting evaluations.


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Post#3 » by Argyle » Wed May 28, 2008 9:29 pm

Finally the move that will change our fortunes!

Cha Seung Baek to the Padres for Jared Wells!!!





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Post#4 » by Sweezo » Wed May 28, 2008 10:06 pm

Only way Bavasi would have interest in Baek is if he were to start a few seasons, and then put up the exact same numbers he always has. At which point a large contract would be in the offing. And I have a feeling I've made this same comment before...

Is the organizational philosophy re: starting pitching something from Bavasi's mind or a directive from his higher-ups wanting somewhat recognizable names?
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Post#5 » by BlackMamba » Thu May 29, 2008 12:05 am

what, i thought baek was released...
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Post#6 » by PhilipNelsonFan » Thu May 29, 2008 2:02 am

BlackMamba wrote:what, i thought baek was released...


I thought so too, but I guess Bavasi held him in limbo. When a player is DFA'd there are three options present: trade the player, demote him to AAA or release him outright. There must be some kind of time limit on a decision, as this came about a week after the news was announced.
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Post#7 » by Basketball Jesus » Thu May 29, 2008 2:23 am

There is a ten-day window in which a DFAed player can be traded, demoted, or released.
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Post#8 » by Argyle » Thu May 29, 2008 5:44 am

btw, I just noticed the pun in the subject headline. nice.

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Post#9 » by Ex-hippie » Thu May 29, 2008 12:30 pm

Argyle wrote:btw, I just noticed the pun in the subject headline. nice.

+1 for bbj.


I thought it was half-Baeked.
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Post#10 » by HeavyP » Thu May 29, 2008 3:18 pm

Paul Depodesta for GM. Or Chris Antonetti
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Post#11 » by BlackMamba » Thu May 29, 2008 5:28 pm

Basketball Jesus wrote:There is a ten-day window in which a DFAed player can be traded, demoted, or released.



ooooohhhhhh... i see, i see...
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Post#12 » by b_roy7 » Thu May 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Surprise? Kudos on the thread title BBJ!
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Post#13 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:50 pm

What draft pick do we have?
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Post#14 » by b_roy7 » Thu Jun 5, 2008 4:58 pm

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Post#15 » by BlackMamba » Thu Jun 5, 2008 5:18 pm

of all the draft mocks i've seen they all think the M's should draft a pitcher...

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