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RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST)

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#61 » by Bob8 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:00 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
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KhalilS wrote:
Powell had a great RS (for what I expected), problem was in PO, McGee isn't useful even in RS.
Whiteside was better for Utah than McGee for PHX, I have no idea why yhey had to go out of their way to sign him.


Who was with him in LA? ;)

Kidd is collecting his friends like chocolates.


Imagine if we have Wood instead of Powell at that time. Loovey will never get 20 rebounds against us.


I was talking about Mcgee and he and Ayon wasn't enough against Mavs with Powell. ;) Sure better C would have helped against Warriors, but there're dozen cheap Cs better than Powell.

I can understand why they tried with Mcgee, but his contract is very difficult for understanding.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#62 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:03 am

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Michaellam1987 wrote:
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Who was with him in LA? ;)

Kidd is collecting his friends like chocolates.


Imagine if we have Wood instead of Powell at that time. Loovey will never get 20 rebounds against us.


I was talking about Mcgee and he and Ayon wasn't enough against Mavs with Powell. ;)


Very funny... We signed a player who had not be effective against Powell and our mediocre bigs. Not so funny so :lol:
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#63 » by algope » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:19 am

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KhalilS wrote:Yeah, I prefer Powell over McGee

Thank you, I've been waiting for someone else to say this. McGee literally looks like a walking 7 foot zombie out there. I don't want to hear anymore "McGee is 100% better then Powell" comments. This iteration of McGee is a joke out there.


Another one who prefers Powell. In fact I think he had last year a very undervalued RS.
Imagine if the money used to sing McGee would have gone to Bruce Brown.
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Post#64 » by Michaellam1987 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:42 am

Although it is a win today, it is quite overall embrassing we need to spend 100% effort to bit one of the worst team in the league without several key guards in Anthony/Suggs/Fultz
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Post#65 » by Darren » Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:13 am

Size matters. But pure size do not translate directly into great defense. I think a defensive leader like Tyson Chandler is required to monitor the traffic and make sure that the drivers hit a wall. Betting everything on McGee is just showing the incompetence of the front office who really doesn't know much about basketball.
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Post#66 » by Maverick41 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:37 am

algope wrote:Another one who prefers Powell. In fact I think he had last year a very undervalued RS.
Imagine if the money used to sing McGee would have gone to Bruce Brown.

That's the exact guy I would have wanted. A wing that could have actually played for us in the playoffs. Instead we got an over the hill center who even at his best was a 10 minute playoff rotation player. Just sad use of one of the few assets we had.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#67 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:54 am

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KhalilS wrote:The offense is still effecient, but boy does it look ugly, I suspect it's still effecient only because of Luka.

Luka is the only reason why the offense is efficient numbers wise (because visually its ugly). He's also the reason why our defense is not good. These 2 are interconnected. If Luka had more help and didn't have to expend 100000% energy on offense, then he'd actually have some energy on defense and our defense wouldn't have to scramble to protect him every possession.


Luka was beat off the dribble few times, but Bullock and DFS aren't what they were last year, and the McGee minutes are brutal on defense, there is huge room for improvement with the current Luka usage, just inserting Powell instead of McGee had a big defensive turnaround because you don't have 2 weak links on the perimeter, and McGee hasn't been a rim protector in any way shape or form.
Big defensive problem for the Mavs is that both McGee and Wood suck at it, I'd bench McGee, but Wood need to figure out stuff soon, he's mobile enough to be Powell on the perimeter.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#68 » by Archx » Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:07 pm

KhalilS wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:
KhalilS wrote:The offense is still effecient, but boy does it look ugly, I suspect it's still effecient only because of Luka.

Luka is the only reason why the offense is efficient numbers wise (because visually its ugly). He's also the reason why our defense is not good. These 2 are interconnected. If Luka had more help and didn't have to expend 100000% energy on offense, then he'd actually have some energy on defense and our defense wouldn't have to scramble to protect him every possession.


Luka was beat off the dribble few times, but Bullock and DFS aren't what they were last year, and the McGee minutes are brutal on defense, there is huge room for improvement with the current Luka usage, just inserting Powell instead of McGee had a big defensive turnaround because you don't have 2 weak links on the perimeter, and McGee hasn't been a rim protector in any way shape or form.
Big defensive problem for the Mavs is that both McGee and Wood suck at it, I'd bench McGee, but Wood need to figure out stuff soon, he's mobile enough to be Powell on the perimeter.


It is encouraging that DFS is finally showing some signs of life. I'm 100% sure he won't be as bad as he was first few games.

Otherwise Kidd could just play Green who looks like a younger version of DFS with high energy and good defense. It's true that Green is not taking a lot of 3s but he is sitting at 55% from range at the moment. Which is very promising. I also loved his drives to the rim last game, dude is not afraid anymore which could potentially give this team another great 3&D player. He's also 8 years younger than DFS.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#69 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:39 pm

I checked and team offensive rating is 2nd highest of all time, topped only by Suns this year.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=highest+team+offensive+rating+of+all-time+by+seasons

Against the magic, it was 123+ PPP
I swear I wouldn't have guessed that watching the games.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#70 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:04 pm

KhalilS wrote:I checked and team offensive rating is 2nd highest of all time, topped only by Suns this year.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=highest+team+offensive+rating+of+all-time+by+seasons

Against the magic, it was 123+ PPP
I swear I wouldn't have guessed that watching the games.


It's easy with a player who averages 37+9+9 :lol:
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Post#71 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue Nov 1, 2022 4:31 am

In tight late game situation, our line up used by Kidd is always Luka + Bullock + DFS + Maxi + Dinwiddie/THJ. This is simply not good enough, especially from the offensive end.

IMO, Wood needs to be in the game to add more demensions to the offense, in replacement for whoever not shooting the ball well on that night in Bullock/DFS/Maxi, because they are all 3&D providing basically the same thing. Having all 3 of them on court will be too one-sided.

One of Dinwiddie/THJ has to be in the game, depending who is having better condition on that night, as they are the only other 2 players that can create offense by themselves beside Luka in the team, and will be more useful as secondary ball handlers when Luka is being double-teamed.

Someone also need to tell Luka to learn how to perserve energy, focus on scoring and assist, shoot less step back 3, do less complaints and spend all his remaining energy to be only a slight negative player on the defensive end, spend less energy on fighting for rebound, he has Wood and others to do so.

When in the situation of continuous fouls/timeout etc in late game, Kidd should consider to make consistent offensive/defensive substitution. IMO, our best defense lineup should be Green + Bullock + DFS + Maxi + Ntilikina. Exhausted Luka should be kept out of the game, since he has always been targeted from the opposite team. DAL used to do so in the Dirk/Jet era. Dirk/Jet will be on the bench due to their relatively weakness on defense.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Magic (Tonight! 7:30PM EST) 

Post#72 » by Maverick41 » Tue Nov 1, 2022 5:51 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:In tight late game situation, our line up used by Kidd is always Luka + Bullock + DFS + Maxi + Dinwiddie/THJ. This is simply not good enough, especially from the offensive end.

IMO, Wood needs to be in the game to add more demensions to the offense, in replacement for whoever not shooting the ball well on that night in Bullock/DFS/Maxi, because they are all 3&D providing basically the same thing. Having all 3 of them on court will be too one-sided.

One of Dinwiddie/THJ has to be in the game, depending who is having better condition on that night, as they are the only other 2 players that can create offense by themselves beside Luka in the team, and will be more useful as secondary ball handlers when Luka is being double-teamed.

I agree. To me, I see no reason why Maxi should be in an offensive closing lineup. Defensively, sure since he's undoubtedly our best defensive big. But offensively, we have better shooters to go to. Not to mention, Maxi is one of the easiest players to hard close since his shot is so slow and he tends to be a bad decision maker off of a shot fake.
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Post#73 » by daoneandonly » Tue Nov 1, 2022 8:54 pm

ejs78 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:We all knew the McGee signing was nonsensical. And Josh Green continues to be an abject disappointment. Dude just sucks
Don't think we've watched the same games when it comes to Green. We'd all like him further along offensively, but he's definitely earned his min and maybe more.

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