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What Kobe said why I question Luka Ball

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Re: What Kobe said why I question Luka Ball 

Post#21 » by Mavrelous » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:38 pm

Bob8 wrote:Powell was standing on perimeter a lot. Spacing was just on totally different level and I will not even mention playoffs series against Clippers with Rick. There was a reason for Luka's dominance.

One of the reason for Luka struggling this year is that Mavs are playing totally chaotic offense, being in wrong places a lot, killing spacing and making Luka's life far more difficult, especially when, mostly, opponents take lob threat away. Luka is not built to beat opponents with speed, he needs something and he's getting nothing.


PO under both RC and Kidd were mostly 5 out, but Luka posts up with players in the dunker spot a lot, watch the video, Powell, Chriss and DFS, and with all due respect to Mavs shooters, we saw last year, 5 out doesn't mean the defense is spread with the 5 out there...
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Re: What Kobe said why I question Luka Ball 

Post#22 » by joesha1698 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:17 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.


They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it
;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.



Honestly, he was a was more physical in these highlights and he took more shots in the paint and mid-range. I like that Luka a lot more. And his body looks noticeably more in shape.
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Re: What Kobe said why I question Luka Ball 

Post#23 » by Mavrelous » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:21 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.


They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it
;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.



Honestly, he was a was more physical in these highlights and he took more shots in the paint and mid-range. I like that Luka a lot more. And his body looks noticeably more in shape.
Statistically, post trade deadline Luka in 2024 is the best stretch of his career, not really close, eye test wise, post deadline 2022 Luka was the best, I agree.
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Re: What Kobe said why I question Luka Ball 

Post#24 » by Bob8 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:22 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.


They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it
;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.



Honestly, he was a was more physical in these highlights and he took more shots in the paint and mid-range. I like that Luka a lot more. And his body looks noticeably more in shape.


I kinda doubt that's true. Those 4 players around Luka were doing more or less nothing other than standing in the corner, except Powell, who was cutting to the rim occasionally. Their sole purpose was creating as much space possible for Luka. They played with the slowest pace in the league.

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