Mavs coaching discussion

[BliscoSantos]

Every year we miss something, so Nico is a bum. Right?

Oh well, did you enjoy watching Luka less Mavs?
They play a great basketball, everybody pass the ball.
Everybody are involved.
Now we are a real contender.

Boston is clearly afraid from new Mavs

The Luka and Kyrie less Mavs are good for about 2-3 quarters every game. If this team had a legit pure point guard - they would win a lot of these games. So, yes, I do enjoy watching them without Luka and Kyrie for about 2-3 quarters but then the mistakes and LOW IQ possessions add up...That's where having that pure point guard to keep them on track makes the difference. That's why I do believe most of the losing is due to roster build and how we play. Could Kidd change that up a little bit better -probably and that falls in that 30% of blame I put on him.

As for every year we're missing something? Well, I think since this team (I mean Mark Cuban, lets be honest) didn't resign Brunson they have been filling holes ever since. Deep down, I think Mark didn't like how much Brunson needed the ball next to someone ball dominate like Luka...and that probably played into why he let him go. Hence, you get Kyrie - he has the ability to play off the ball a lot better. Our front court was young and not very deep. We made a bad decision on Williams and we corrected it with PJ and Gafford.

We're probably a player and a year away from being able to win it all. I think we need another guy (not named Kyrie and Luka) that provides toughness, leadership, defense, and scoring. I think if we had Sakiam over PJ Washington we would have a legit big 3 and be championship contenders right now. Washington has not been able to take that next step and is still in that good role player position. Which is fine. I think we have to improve our SF position next year, (maybe sit Klay as 6th man), invest in a pure point guard that can backup Luka if he gets hurt and run the team.

If we can do some of these things this year, i'm fine with that too.

Oh well, you enjoyed watching 50% to 75% minutes of last games... I can understand that you have to defend your position but you have to be honest to yourself, we don't play good basketball lately.
We don't have a real PG but give green light to SD every possession is on Kidd.
I can't believe that SD can't play a simply pick&roll or another basic play. Even a kid in high school can do it.
For the entire 4th quarter Kidd doesn't call a play, he just watched the game and made (bad) rotations.
Rewatch the game. Try.
We are beyond bad coaching, we are no coached team. But it's normal because with Luka and Kyrie you don't need a coach. So even a cow can stay on the bench.

This team is good enough for contending,maybe not for win this year but we are talking about a L against the Pels without Zion, Ingram and Jones.
This is the point. I don't think you understand it.
Those games are indicators of the coach's ability.

It seems like every other team in the league can win shorthanded except the Mavs...and that really shouldn't be a surprise considering how many times they strugle against shorthanded competition even when they are playing with Luka and Kai...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...is it really a surprise we see this lackluster performances from the players? They're Just following their coaches behavior

[41Dirk41]

...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...

I read this quote from years but i can't understand in fact what it means.

Can someone explain it to me please?
Does he lose games on purpose? Does he make bad rotations on purpose? Else?

[Bob8]

...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...

I read this quote from years but i can't understand in fact what it means.

Can someone explain it to me please?
Does he lose games on purpose? Does he make bad rotations on purpose? Else?

It means he's a bad coach.

Mavs play good in playoffs only because they have the best half court offense, because of Luka and Kyrie, which is crucial with snails pace in playoffs.

[BliscoSantos]

...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...

I read this quote from years but i can't understand in fact what it means.

Can someone explain it to me please?
Does he lose games on purpose? Does he make bad rotations on purpose? Else?

It means he's a bad coach.

Mavs play good in playoffs only because they have the best half court offense, because of Luka and Kyrie, which is crucial with snails pace in playoffs.

It means he's treating the whole regular season like preseason...he's trying different lineups,getting guys to figure it out for themselves...it seems like he's trying to figure out what works...and that's good, but that's what preseason is for and maybe the first 20 games of the season,not the halfway Point... especially when the core of the team is basicaly the same as last year.... it's weird that in playoffs,apart from the first game mostly, he turns into completely different coach...he's taking timeouts at the right time,is more energentic, draws up actuall plays(at the end od games)

[Archx]

I think the main issue is not having a pure PG to lead this team. This roster (sans Kyrie and Luka) is built for a pure point guard. Someone who can push the ball and get others involved. In a way, its built perfect for someone like Jason Kidd/Lonzo Ball/etc to run the offense. I think if we had a Lonzo Ball level backup who could come in and run the offense - we would be at least .500 or better.

Overall, there are things I like and dislike about Kidd. He's not going anywhere this year. I do think he's getting closer to the hot seat. However, we have to address our roster issues. I do not think you blame Kidd when its clear these guys do not have a pure point guard out there for a bunch of shooters and finishers, basically. 70% blame on personnel. 30% blame on Kidd. I think Kidd can use players better/motivate/team should be more discipline.

Mavs AST% drops by only 0.3% without Luka. Naji had 10 assists last game and they had total of 27 assists vs Nuggets both games, they even had 4 more than Nuggets 1st game.

Now check this out, their ORTG (offense) drops by 8.4 pts and their pace drops by 1.5 pt when Luka is sitting on the bench eating popcorn.

It's seriously astonishing that you can't comprehend in all this time how good actually Luka is and what he does and how bad Kidd is as a coach. No real PG is going to fix current issues. Might soften the blow yea but not even a healthy Kyrie would be capable of solo carrying them to the playoffs. Maybe they could get to round1 but that would be max.

You have to understand that coach is a serious issue and not having Luka to cover up for his horrible offense will expose ANY team big time.

Where were you when Luka carried a corpse of Bullock, Powell, Maxi, some Gleague guys, etc.. to the 4th spot, before he went down with injury? And that wasn't even that long ago.

Since Luka went down, Mavs missed 100 pts mark 5/12 times. Granted some of those games Kyrie also missed but still... Any capable coach would be able to achieve much more even without both stars.

[Bob8]

I read this quote from years but i can't understand in fact what it means.

Can someone explain it to me please?
Does he lose games on purpose? Does he make bad rotations on purpose? Else?

It means he's a bad coach.

Mavs play good in playoffs only because they have the best half court offense, because of Luka and Kyrie, which is crucial with snails pace in playoffs.

It means he's treating the whole regular season like preseason...he's trying different lineups,getting guys to figure it out for themselves...it seems like he's trying to figure out what works...and that's good, but that's what preseason is for and maybe the first 20 games of the season,not the halfway Point... especially when the core of the team is basicaly the same as last year.... it's weird that in playoffs,apart from the first game mostly, he turns into completely different coach...he's taking timeouts at the right time,is more energentic, draws up actuall plays(at the end od games)

That's just bull. Nobody can be bad coach in RS and good coach in playoffs, maybe we can say that's easy coaching series, because there's more preparation and more or less everything is known. But in reality it's system around Luka working better in playoffs, because playoffs are about half court offense and that's exactly where Luka's driven system excels. Slower pace and more contact allowed helps in D too.

[41Dirk41]

I read this quote from years but i can't understand in fact what it means.

Can someone explain it to me please?
Does he lose games on purpose? Does he make bad rotations on purpose? Else?

It means he's a bad coach.

Mavs play good in playoffs only because they have the best half court offense, because of Luka and Kyrie, which is crucial with snails pace in playoffs.

It means he's treating the whole regular season like preseason...he's trying different lineups,getting guys to figure it out for themselves...it seems like he's trying to figure out what works...and that's good, but that's what preseason is for and maybe the first 20 games of the season,not the halfway Point... especially when the core of the team is basicaly the same as last year.... it's weird that in playoffs,apart from the first game mostly, he turns into completely different coach...he's taking timeouts at the right time,is more energentic, draws up actuall plays(at the end od games)

Yes, that's more or less what I expected to read but I'd like to go deeper and more specifically, so it's very general and could be applied to any coach who loses a lot of games (and Kidd has a 50% RS record coaching 3 contender and +500 games. Don't forget it).

What are those experiments?
Draw that ISO for Klay in the clutch because he made 3 shoots in a raw (3, layup and fade away)?
Or give free light to SD for 38 minutes?
Force Kleber 20 minutes a game until he will be a factor?
Take out of the game the hottest players everytime?
Don't call any play in the entire 4th quarter in a must win game?

Honestly i don't see experiments, i don't see some new offensive plays or some difensive plan (zone, doubled, box and one, ecc ecc).
I just see every year a team who play random basket, a lot of iso and mostly lost a lot of games despite a very good roster.

And that acclaimed "PO coaching" is just fool's gold for me but i hope i'm dead wrong obviously.

[41Dirk41]

I can agree that most of the time great players make coaches great but in difficulties the hand of the coach must be seen, Kidd is just bringing us down and it's not even questionable.

[joesha1698]

I think the main issue is not having a pure PG to lead this team. This roster (sans Kyrie and Luka) is built for a pure point guard. Someone who can push the ball and get others involved. In a way, its built perfect for someone like Jason Kidd/Lonzo Ball/etc to run the offense. I think if we had a Lonzo Ball level backup who could come in and run the offense - we would be at least .500 or better.

Overall, there are things I like and dislike about Kidd. He's not going anywhere this year. I do think he's getting closer to the hot seat. However, we have to address our roster issues. I do not think you blame Kidd when its clear these guys do not have a pure point guard out there for a bunch of shooters and finishers, basically. 70% blame on personnel. 30% blame on Kidd. I think Kidd can use players better/motivate/team should be more discipline.

Mavs AST% drops by only 0.3% without Luka. Naji had 10 assists last game and they had total of 27 assists vs Nuggets both games, they even had 4 more than Nuggets 1st game.

Now check this out, their ORTG (offense) drops by 8.4 pts and their pace drops by 1.5 pt when Luka is sitting on the bench eating popcorn.

It's seriously astonishing that you can't comprehend in all this time how good actually Luka is and what he does and how bad Kidd is as a coach. No real PG is going to fix current issues. Might soften the blow yea but not even a healthy Kyrie would be capable of solo carrying them to the playoffs. Maybe they could get to round1 but that would be max.

You have to understand that coach is a serious issue and not having Luka to cover up for his horrible offense will expose ANY team big time.

Where were you when Luka carried a corpse of Bullock, Powell, Maxi, some Gleague guys, etc.. to the 4th spot, before he went down with injury? And that wasn't even that long ago.

Since Luka went down, Mavs missed 100 pts mark 5/12 times. Granted some of those games Kyrie also missed but still... Any capable coach would be able to achieve much more even without both stars.

I think Kidd does take a laissez-faire approach ala Phil Jackson. I'm watching games. They are in every game and they are even up in most of these games. The problem is, the bad decision making catches up with them when you have players who aren't high level scorers or decision makers. The turnovers by Grimes, Gafford, Lively, or the bad shot selection by PJ,SD, Klay, or Hardy...these things compound over time and contribute to losing. One criticism of Kidd is that I think some players aren't as discipline. But there's a thin line between being hard on players today and motivating them. I also think Kidd can be more creative on offense.

But when I look at our roster, its built for a pure point guard to set guys up, penetrate, push the break, get into the paint and make things happen. We do not have that. We have a shooters, dunkers at the 5, and wing players who can finish at the basket but are inconsistent scoring individuality.

The Pacers are 22-19
Mavs are 22-19
Bucks are 22-17
Denver is 22-16 (not much better)

A lot of teams are struggling this year and we lost our two best players for 10+ games or more...we do not have another all-star level scorer or playmaker on this roster with those guys out. Therefore, we have to do it by committee - the issue is we have small room for error on a team without a pure pg to make things easier...basically.

The one area I do criticize Kidd is I think he has this big picture approach and I think he needs to be more stern with certain guys. I'm seeing too many of the same mistakes night in and night out.

We lost to the Blazers, Kings, Rockets, Grizzles (possibly should have beat), Nuggets twice, Pelicans on a bad call. Aside from the depleted Grizzles team, who else should we have beaten? Possibly the Blazers...Like I said...I personally would like to see Kidd hold these guys more accountable when they make the same mistakes over and over. But a lot of it comes down to the roster on the court and not having a floor general out there.

Note: Lets say we beat everyone we should have
-rockets better team
-cavs better team
-grizzlees - we win
lakers - better team
blazers - we win
nuggets - loss
nuggets - loss
pelicans - win

At best we probably should be 3-5 instead of 2-8
With more discipline play - maybe 5-5.
with a legit pure pg that is lonzo ball level decent - 5-5 to 6-4.

[joesha1698]

The Luka and Kyrie less Mavs are good for about 2-3 quarters every game. If this team had a legit pure point guard - they would win a lot of these games. So, yes, I do enjoy watching them without Luka and Kyrie for about 2-3 quarters but then the mistakes and LOW IQ possessions add up...That's where having that pure point guard to keep them on track makes the difference. That's why I do believe most of the losing is due to roster build and how we play. Could Kidd change that up a little bit better -probably and that falls in that 30% of blame I put on him.

As for every year we're missing something? Well, I think since this team (I mean Mark Cuban, lets be honest) didn't resign Brunson they have been filling holes ever since. Deep down, I think Mark didn't like how much Brunson needed the ball next to someone ball dominate like Luka...and that probably played into why he let him go. Hence, you get Kyrie - he has the ability to play off the ball a lot better. Our front court was young and not very deep. We made a bad decision on Williams and we corrected it with PJ and Gafford.

We're probably a player and a year away from being able to win it all. I think we need another guy (not named Kyrie and Luka) that provides toughness, leadership, defense, and scoring. I think if we had Sakiam over PJ Washington we would have a legit big 3 and be championship contenders right now. Washington has not been able to take that next step and is still in that good role player position. Which is fine. I think we have to improve our SF position next year, (maybe sit Klay as 6th man), invest in a pure point guard that can backup Luka if he gets hurt and run the team.

If we can do some of these things this year, i'm fine with that too.

Oh well, you enjoyed watching 50% to 75% minutes of last games... I can understand that you have to defend your position but you have to be honest to yourself, we don't play good basketball lately.
We don't have a real PG but give green light to SD every possession is on Kidd.
I can't believe that SD can't play a simply pick&roll or another basic play. Even a kid in high school can do it.
For the entire 4th quarter Kidd doesn't call a play, he just watched the game and made (bad) rotations.
Rewatch the game. Try.
We are beyond bad coaching, we are no coached team. But it's normal because with Luka and Kyrie you don't need a coach. So even a cow can stay on the bench.

This team is good enough for contending,maybe not for win this year but we are talking about a L against the Pels without Zion, Ingram and Jones.
This is the point. I don't think you understand it.
Those games are indicators of the coach's ability.

It seems like every other team in the league can win shorthanded except the Mavs...and that really shouldn't be a surprise considering how many times they strugle against shorthanded competition even when they are playing with Luka and Kai...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...is it really a surprise we see this lackluster performances from the players? They're Just following their coaches behavior

Phil Jackson was the same way. Jason met with Phil in the off-season. Its the whole, you let them figure it out type of thing. Work it out among themselves.. If they make it back to the finals with this approach, no one complains...that's how it goes.

[41Dirk41]

Oh well, you enjoyed watching 50% to 75% minutes of last games... I can understand that you have to defend your position but you have to be honest to yourself, we don't play good basketball lately.
We don't have a real PG but give green light to SD every possession is on Kidd.
I can't believe that SD can't play a simply pick&roll or another basic play. Even a kid in high school can do it.
For the entire 4th quarter Kidd doesn't call a play, he just watched the game and made (bad) rotations.
Rewatch the game. Try.
We are beyond bad coaching, we are no coached team. But it's normal because with Luka and Kyrie you don't need a coach. So even a cow can stay on the bench.

This team is good enough for contending,maybe not for win this year but we are talking about a L against the Pels without Zion, Ingram and Jones.
This is the point. I don't think you understand it.
Those games are indicators of the coach's ability.

It seems like every other team in the league can win shorthanded except the Mavs...and that really shouldn't be a surprise considering how many times they strugle against shorthanded competition even when they are playing with Luka and Kai...Kidd isn't taking regular season seriously...is it really a surprise we see this lackluster performances from the players? They're Just following their coaches behavior

Phil Jackson was the same way. Jason met with Phil in the off-season. Its the whole, you let them figure it out type of thing. Work it out among themselves.. If they make it back to the finals with this approach, no one complains...that's how it goes.

Oh well he talked to Phil Jackson so it's ok, with this logic if i talk to Musk I will be a millionaire.
You are a genius.

Phil Jackson wasn't the same way, his RS record is not 50%, he didn't make "experiments" when he had to win games.
Maybe Kidd didn't understand at all his speech

And about bad decision by players , you are right but i doubt they don't execute what their coach says to them... And after 40 games it's time to understand what kind of players who have.

But ehy, he makes experiments... the problem is that they are all complete failures so maybe he is the problem.

However "make experiments" and "i don't care about RS" could become the defensive strategy of every poor coach, Kidd had to be a lawyer. Not a basketball coach.

[Archx]

I think the main issue is not having a pure PG to lead this team. This roster (sans Kyrie and Luka) is built for a pure point guard. Someone who can push the ball and get others involved. In a way, its built perfect for someone like Jason Kidd/Lonzo Ball/etc to run the offense. I think if we had a Lonzo Ball level backup who could come in and run the offense - we would be at least .500 or better.

Overall, there are things I like and dislike about Kidd. He's not going anywhere this year. I do think he's getting closer to the hot seat. However, we have to address our roster issues. I do not think you blame Kidd when its clear these guys do not have a pure point guard out there for a bunch of shooters and finishers, basically. 70% blame on personnel. 30% blame on Kidd. I think Kidd can use players better/motivate/team should be more discipline.

Mavs AST% drops by only 0.3% without Luka. Naji had 10 assists last game and they had total of 27 assists vs Nuggets both games, they even had 4 more than Nuggets 1st game.

Now check this out, their ORTG (offense) drops by 8.4 pts and their pace drops by 1.5 pt when Luka is sitting on the bench eating popcorn.

It's seriously astonishing that you can't comprehend in all this time how good actually Luka is and what he does and how bad Kidd is as a coach. No real PG is going to fix current issues. Might soften the blow yea but not even a healthy Kyrie would be capable of solo carrying them to the playoffs. Maybe they could get to round1 but that would be max.

You have to understand that coach is a serious issue and not having Luka to cover up for his horrible offense will expose ANY team big time.

Where were you when Luka carried a corpse of Bullock, Powell, Maxi, some Gleague guys, etc.. to the 4th spot, before he went down with injury? And that wasn't even that long ago.

Since Luka went down, Mavs missed 100 pts mark 5/12 times. Granted some of those games Kyrie also missed but still... Any capable coach would be able to achieve much more even without both stars.

I think Kidd does take a laissez-faire approach ala Phil Jackson. I'm watching games. They are in every game and they are even up in most of these games. The problem is, the bad decision making catches up with them when you have players who aren't high level scorers or decision makers. The turnovers by Grimes, Gafford, Lively, or the bad shot selection by PJ,SD, Klay, or Hardy...these things compound over time and contribute to losing. One criticism of Kidd is that I think some players aren't as discipline. But there's a thin line between being hard on players today and motivating them. I also think Kidd can be more creative on offense.

But when I look at our roster, its built for a pure point guard to set guys up, penetrate, push the break, get into the paint and make things happen. We do not have that. We have a shooters, dunkers at the 5, and wing players who can finish at the basket but are inconsistent scoring individuality.

The Pacers are 22-19
Mavs are 22-19
Bucks are 22-17
Denver is 22-16 (not much better)

A lot of teams are struggling this year and we lost our two best players for 10+ games or more...we do not have another all-star level scorer or playmaker on this roster with those guys out. Therefore, we have to do it by committee - the issue is we have small room for error on a team without a pure pg to make things easier...basically.

The one area I do criticize Kidd is I think he has this big picture approach and I think he needs to be more stern with certain guys. I'm seeing too many of the same mistakes night in and night out.

We lost to the Blazers, Kings, Rockets, Grizzles (possibly should have beat), Nuggets twice, Pelicans on a bad call. Aside from the depleted Grizzles team, who else should we have beaten? Possibly the Blazers...Like I said...I personally would like to see Kidd hold these guys more accountable when they make the same mistakes over and over. But a lot of it comes down to the roster on the court and not having a floor general out there.

Note: Lets say we beat everyone we should have
-rockets better team
-cavs better team
-grizzlees - we win
lakers - better team
blazers - we win
nuggets - loss
nuggets - loss
pelicans - win

At best we probably should be 3-5 instead of 2-8
With more discipline play - maybe 5-5.
with a legit pure pg that is lonzo ball level decent - 5-5 to 6-4.

Putting Phil in same sentence as Kidd is a serious insult to PJ. Kidd wouldn't be able to clean PJ's dirty socks, that's how bad he is.

He often misses the right timing with TO's, his out of timeout plays are almost a pure disaster, he can't recognize when to go small or big and then is already too late when he finally figures out it doesn't work. But those are just starter points...

Mavs are suppose to have one of the strongest benches in the league. At the start they looked like that and they still do look like that but role players are playing all the wrong roles. I'm honestly not even bothered to go into details on that because it's so obvious to almost anyone. Has nothing to do with playmaking, it's simply putting right guys on the right spot and running right plays for them.
For example, even when Luka and Kyrie play, there will still be plays for Klay to go 1v1. What kind of dumbass coach would allow that over and over again? Or forcing Maxi to play dribble penetrate like he's prime Lebron or something?

No playmaker is fixing those things for Kidd.

And btw, you're still missing the point on Luka. You keep repeating yourself and think he's simply an initiator on offense. He's way more than that. His gravity alone benefits the team a lot and on top of that, he's a scorer as well. The amount of pressure he can put on opposing defenses makes so many things easier for role players. Kidd doesn't know how to benefit from that unfortunately.

[41Dirk41]

I think the main issue is not having a pure PG to lead this team. This roster (sans Kyrie and Luka) is built for a pure point guard. Someone who can push the ball and get others involved. In a way, its built perfect for someone like Jason Kidd/Lonzo Ball/etc to run the offense. I think if we had a Lonzo Ball level backup who could come in and run the offense - we would be at least .500 or better.

Overall, there are things I like and dislike about Kidd. He's not going anywhere this year. I do think he's getting closer to the hot seat. However, we have to address our roster issues. I do not think you blame Kidd when its clear these guys do not have a pure point guard out there for a bunch of shooters and finishers, basically. 70% blame on personnel. 30% blame on Kidd. I think Kidd can use players better/motivate/team should be more discipline.

Mavs AST% drops by only 0.3% without Luka. Naji had 10 assists last game and they had total of 27 assists vs Nuggets both games, they even had 4 more than Nuggets 1st game.

Now check this out, their ORTG (offense) drops by 8.4 pts and their pace drops by 1.5 pt when Luka is sitting on the bench eating popcorn.

It's seriously astonishing that you can't comprehend in all this time how good actually Luka is and what he does and how bad Kidd is as a coach. No real PG is going to fix current issues. Might soften the blow yea but not even a healthy Kyrie would be capable of solo carrying them to the playoffs. Maybe they could get to round1 but that would be max.

You have to understand that coach is a serious issue and not having Luka to cover up for his horrible offense will expose ANY team big time.

Where were you when Luka carried a corpse of Bullock, Powell, Maxi, some Gleague guys, etc.. to the 4th spot, before he went down with injury? And that wasn't even that long ago.

Since Luka went down, Mavs missed 100 pts mark 5/12 times. Granted some of those games Kyrie also missed but still... Any capable coach would be able to achieve much more even without both stars.

I think Kidd does take a laissez-faire approach ala Phil Jackson. I'm watching games. They are in every game and they are even up in most of these games. The problem is, the bad decision making catches up with them when you have players who aren't high level scorers or decision makers. The turnovers by Grimes, Gafford, Lively, or the bad shot selection by PJ,SD, Klay, or Hardy...these things compound over time and contribute to losing. One criticism of Kidd is that I think some players aren't as discipline. But there's a thin line between being hard on players today and motivating them. I also think Kidd can be more creative on offense.

But when I look at our roster, its built for a pure point guard to set guys up, penetrate, push the break, get into the paint and make things happen. We do not have that. We have a shooters, dunkers at the 5, and wing players who can finish at the basket but are inconsistent scoring individuality.

The Pacers are 22-19
Mavs are 22-19
Bucks are 22-17
Denver is 22-16 (not much better)

A lot of teams are struggling this year and we lost our two best players for 10+ games or more...we do not have another all-star level scorer or playmaker on this roster with those guys out. Therefore, we have to do it by committee - the issue is we have small room for error on a team without a pure pg to make things easier...basically.

The one area I do criticize Kidd is I think he has this big picture approach and I think he needs to be more stern with certain guys. I'm seeing too many of the same mistakes night in and night out.

We lost to the Blazers, Kings, Rockets, Grizzles (possibly should have beat), Nuggets twice, Pelicans on a bad call. Aside from the depleted Grizzles team, who else should we have beaten? Possibly the Blazers...Like I said...I personally would like to see Kidd hold these guys more accountable when they make the same mistakes over and over. But a lot of it comes down to the roster on the court and not having a floor general out there.

Note: Lets say we beat everyone we should have
-rockets better team
-cavs better team
-grizzlees - we win
lakers - better team
blazers - we win
nuggets - loss
nuggets - loss
pelicans - win

At best we probably should be 3-5 instead of 2-8
With more discipline play - maybe 5-5.
with a legit pure pg that is lonzo ball level decent - 5-5 to 6-4.

If my grandfather had 3 balls it would have been a pinball machine.

We are 2-8 and Kidd was horrible down the stretch.
No moral victories needed. Please.

[41Dirk41]

...and fate saved Kidd ass this time too... Jason, give me some lottery number. Please. I need money.

I've never seen a guy lucky like him. That's insane.

[41Dirk41]

After next game we will probably be out of play in zone with a 26-24 record.
Perfect time to make changes in the coaching staff.

[daoneandonly]

Kidd is horrendous, but let's be real, a massive reason he's here is because of our two stars. Kyrie adores Kidd, was his favorite player growing up and why he signed with the Nets. Kidd allows Luka to do whatever he wants when he wants. Carlisle didn't and that's why Luka had him fired.

[Archx]

Kidd is horrendous, but let's be real, a massive reason he's here is because of our two stars. Kyrie adores Kidd, was his favorite player growing up and why he signed with the Nets. Kidd allows Luka to do whatever he wants when he wants. Carlisle didn't and that's why Luka had him fired.

Mate please.. don't be like the other guy who just makes stuff up. You're way too experienced here to do that. We all know why Rick was fired. Even Mosley could tell a lot of stories. Keep in mind the entire FO was re-done after that. They had internal issues way before 2018 draft even happened. Rick also had problems with DSJ who he openly blamed and humiliated in front of everyone. A lot of players didn't like that.

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But the most important question is "Kidd system goes to the Lakers, how can Kidd coach now"?