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Post#21 » by sosafan70 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:23 am

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Post#22 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:27 am

sosafan70 wrote:
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Post#23 » by jwa1107 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:48 pm

sosafan70 wrote:Jwa=Google Images

hey!
i resemble that remark!
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and Tupac's still alive, just like Pepp...
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Post#24 » by DDansby123 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:32 pm

Another article from David Moore that I absolutely love.

He basically says that this is an all-or-nothing deal for the Mavs, and that they must win a championship with Kidd for this to be worthwhile. That, he says, is fine, because this team wasn't going to win a championship as it was currently constructed. His take on Avery is that he was letting his team "do its own thing" and no longer holding their hands. That lasted about 20 games, and we've seen the most inconsistent performance we've seen from these guys in several years. Moore thinks it's obvious that the team couldn't handle the added responsibility and therefore wouldn't have won anything this season.

Surprise, surprise: I agree. :)
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Post#25 » by JES12 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:35 pm

David Moore proves to be an idiot once again. The team we had with a healthy Harris was 28-11 (59 win pace) while "pacing ourselves" and "experimenting with the lineups" with the pieces to beat any western conference team. Without Diop and Harris, we LOSE!
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Post#26 » by jwa1107 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:35 pm

this team had 3 chances as primarily constructed all under Avery in the playoffs and all 3 times came up short

lost in WC Semis
lost in the Finals
lost in the 1st round

this team as constructed was a failure

is Kidd the answer? maybe, maybe not
but sticking with the status quo was not getting the job done
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Post#27 » by JES12 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:41 pm

jwa1107 wrote:this team had 3 chances as primarily constructed all under Avery in the playoffs and all 3 times came up short

lost in WC Semis
lost in the Finals
lost in the 1st round

this team as constructed was a failure

is Kidd the answer? maybe, maybe not
but sticking with the status quo was not getting the job done
All those were without Harris starting (and playing a much bigger role) and without Bass in the small ball lineups. And the Finals...well, we don't need to go down that road again.
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Post#28 » by jwa1107 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:48 pm

Harris started all 6 games in the playoffs last season averaging 27mpg.
He started 15 of the 23 playoff games in 2006 averaging 24mpg.
This season he's averaged 30 mpg.

Only a slight increase in minutes and he was pretty heavy playoff starts already...

regardless of why they lost, bottom line is they lost
they were not good enough to overcome the obstacles necessary to win a championship
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Post#29 » by JES12 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:03 pm

jwa1107 wrote:Harris started all 6 games in the playoffs last season averaging 27mpg.
He started 15 of the 23 playoff games in 2006 averaging 24mpg.
This season he's averaged 30 mpg.

Only a slight increase in minutes and he was pretty heavy playoff starts already...

regardless of why they lost, bottom line is they lost
they were not good enough to overcome the obstacles necessary to win a championship
He was the SG in all of theose. Not the point, the off-guard!. Totally different!!!!!!!!!!

And if you want to get into that logic, Dirk + Stack + Terry + Howard + Avery + Cuban = playoff failure!
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Post#30 » by jwa1107 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:18 pm

JES12 wrote:And if you want to get into that logic, Dirk + Stack + Terry + Howard + Avery + Cuban = playoff failure!


i agree
Harris + Dirk + Stack + Terry + Howard + Avery + Cuban = playoff failure!

which is why there is a chance that
Kidd + Dirk + Stack + Terry + Howard + Avery + Cuban = playoff success
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Post#31 » by your_dallas_mavericks » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:02 am

Sorry 2007, I have to agree with the picture man. The team gave Harris more than enough chances to grow into the role and run the offense. He proved he was not capable. I am also going to say he was a bust as the #5 pick in the draft. If we didn't get Stack along with Harris for Jamison then the trade would have been a bust too. Stack saved the trade from being a bust.
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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Post#32 » by JES12 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:09 am

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:Sorry 2007, I have to agree with the picture man. The team gave Harris more than enough chances to grow into the role and run the offense. He proved he was not capable.
And how is that? They finally knocked the starting role off of a PG as good as Bibby. What did he do with that? Well, I'll tell ya....even through all of Avery's pacing & experimenting and injuries, he wen 28-11 and the only full-strength playoff team we lost to was the 1st of 2 Denver games. That is pretty damn remarkable! If Avery hadn't brainwashed this team with all of his crap of peaking at the right time, that could easily been 33-6 beacuse we (we as in Dirk, Howard, Stack, & co.) would have been more focused to beat the teams we were supposed to beat.

Sounds like he proved a hell of a lot. I'm just surprised how fast people want to jump on the hate Harris and George bandwagon like lost puppies looking for some food.
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Post#33 » by your_dallas_mavericks » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:57 am

No, you can't give Harris all the praise for a 28-11 record when Dirk, Josh, JET, and Stack bailed him out from time to time. Devin has a focus problem, sometimes he just freezes and makes extremely stupid mistakes. Harris wasn't the reason that record was achieved. IT was achieved in spite of Harris' offensive play (and defensive at times too).

George is a good role player and always has been, hush about George. He was a good soldier and did what management asked of him and rejected the trade in order to get a better deal. I don't hate Harris, he's a bust for the #5 pick and in being the starting PG for a championship caliber team. He's not Elvis for goodness sake, he's not even Englebert Humperdink. He's average at best whose best talent is speed.
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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Post#34 » by JES12 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:27 am

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:No, you can't give Harris all the praise for a 28-11 record when Dirk, Josh, JET, and Stack bailed him out from time to time. Devin has a focus problem, sometimes he just freezes and makes extremely stupid mistakes. Harris wasn't the reason that record was achieved. IT was achieved in spite of Harris' offensive play (and defensive at times too).


Maybe those same people should have bailed out more during the 7-7 without Harris. At that pace, they would be lotto bound.
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Post#35 » by your_dallas_mavericks » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:30 pm

It was worse without Devin because Terry is less of a PG than Devin is. Kidd >>> Devin > JET
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...

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