Cuban's personnel moves...

[NuclearPalsy]

How would you guys grade the personnel moves that have been made since Cuban bought the Mavs? If I left any out please add them...


2001 sent Hubert Davis, Christian Laettner, Courtney Alexander and Etan Thomas to the Washington Wizards for Juwan Howard, Calvin Booth and Obinna Ekezie.

Erick Strickland to Knicks for John Wallace

February 22, 2002 Acquired guards Nick Van Exel, Avery Johnson and Tariq Abdul-Wahad and center Raef LaFrentz from the Denver Nuggets for forwards Juwan Howard and Donnell Harvey, guard Tim Hardaway and a 2002 first-round pick; placed center Shawn Bradley on the injured list with a sore right knee; placed guard Adrian Griffin on the injured list with back spasms; waived guard Charlie Bell.

August 19, 2003 Acquired forwards Antawn Jamison, Danny Forston and Chris Mills and guard Jiri Welsch from the Golden State Warriors for guards Nick Van Exel and Avery Johnson, forwards Popeye Jones and Antoine Rigaudeau and center Evan Eschmeyer.

July 4, 2003 Signed forward Josh Howard, their first-round draft pick and signed FA Marquis Daniels

October 21, 2003 Acquired forward Antoine Walker and guard Tony Delk from the Boston Celtics for center Raef LaFrentz, guard-forward Jiri Welsch, forward Chris Mills and a first-round pick in the 2004 draft.

2004 In three separate trades, the Mavericks acquired Jerry Stackhouse, the #5 overall draft pick that netted rookie point guard Devin Harris, Jason Terry, Alan Henderson, and Erick Dampier. In obtaining these players, the Mavs parted ways with Antawn Jamison, Antoine Walker, Tony Delk, and Eduardo Najera, while also losing point guard Steve Nash in free agency.

January 31, 2004 Claimed center Scott Williams on waivers from the Phoenix Suns.

July 27, 2004 Acquired center Calvin Booth from the Seattle Supersonics for forward Danny Fortson.

July 30, 2004 Signed center Pavel Podkolzin, the 21st pick in the 2004 Draft, to a three-year contract.

July 15, 2004 Re-signed restricted free agent guard Marquis Daniels; signed center Didier Ilunga-Mbenga.

December 3, 2004 Acquired guard Darrell Armstrong from the New Orleans Hornets for guard Dan Dickau and an undisclosed second-round pick.

February 25, 2005 Acquired forward Keith Van Horn from the Milwaukee Bucks for forwards Alan Henderson and Calvin Booth and cash considerations; activated center Pavel Podkolzin from the injured list.

March 20, 2005 Announced the resignation of coach Don Nelson; promoted assistant Avery Johnson to coach.

August 16, 2005 Waived guard-forward Michael Finley and designated him their amnesty player.

August 20, 2005 Signed guard-forward Doug Christie and center DeSagana Diop.

June 29, 2006 Traded the rights to guard Danilo Pinnock to the Los Angeles Lakers for a 2007 second-round pick.

July 13, 2006 Signed guard Greg Buckner, who had been with the Denver Nuggets; re-signed center D.J. Mebenga.

July 24, 2006 Re-signed guard Darrell Armstrong; acquired guard Anthony Johnson from the Indiana Pacers for Armstrong, guard-forward Rawle Marshall and forward Josh Powell.

July 26, 2006 Re-signed guard Jason Terry to a multi-year contract.

August 3, 2006 Signed forward Devean George, who had been with the Los Angeles Lakers.

August 5, 2006 Waived center Pavel Podkolzin.

August 18, 2006 Signed forwards Ndubi Ebi and Pat Carroll and guards Jose Barea and Darius Washington.

October 28, 2006 Signed forward Josh Howard to a contract extension.

May 11, 2007 Exercised the contract option on center DeSagana Diop.

June 29, 2007 Named Paul Westphal assistant coach; acquired the rights to forward Reyshawn Terry from the Orlando Magic for the rights to forward Milovan Rakovic and cash considerations.

July 13, 2007 Re-signed guard-forward Jerry Stackhouse and Devean George.

July 27, 2007 Signed forwards Nick Fazekas and Brandon Bass.

August 1, 2007 Signed forward Nick Fazekas.

August 7, 2007 Signed guard Eddie Jones.

September 23, 2007 Signed guard Devin Harris to a contract extension.

October 31, 2007 Exercised the contract option on guard Maurice Ager for the 2008-09 season; waived center D.J. Mbenga.

November 1, 2007 Signed forward Juwan Howard.

[NuclearPalsy]

This is the trade that started it all. Nick was huge for the Mavs but if the Nuggets drafted Boozer with the #25 it would have been a huge bust.
February 22, 2002 Acquired guards Nick Van Exel, Avery Johnson and Tariq Abdul-Wahad and center Raef LaFrentz from the Denver Nuggets for forwards Juwan Howard and Donnell Harvey, guard Tim Hardaway and a 2002 first-round pick #25 overall ended up being Frank Williams (FYI: Carlos Boozer was available)

I think this is the best trade Cuban made. The Mavs literally stole Jamison! Also staying with the trend moving older PG's right before they wash out
August 19, 2003 Acquired forwards Antawn Jamison, Danny Forston and Chris Mills and guard Jiri Welsch from the Golden State Warriors for guards Nick Van Exel and Avery Johnson, forwards Popeye Jones and Antoine Rigaudeau and center Evan Eschmeyer.

I loved Antoine at Point Forward when he would take the ball to the paint. To bad he would wear down and start bricking 3's. If the Mavs kept the pick and drafted West they really wouldn't have needed to trade for JET
October 21, 2003 Acquired forward Antoine Walker and guard Tony Delk from the Boston Celtics for center Raef LaFrentz, guard-forward Jiri Welsch, forward Chris Mills and a first-round pick in the 2004 draft. #24 overall ended up being Delonte West.
(08/04/04: TRADE: The Mavericks traded Antoine Walker and Tony Delk to Atlanta for Jason Terry, Alan Henderson, and a future 1st round pick.)

Would you trade Jamison for Dampier & Kidd? That's what it looks like the players involved in this trade were turned into.
The Mavs then trade Jamison & cash for Stackhouse, Laettner, & Devin Harris.


Would everyone else agree that the worst move the Mavs have made since Cuban bought the team was to give Finley the max contract? I believe if Finley wasn't maxed the Nash would still be in Dallas... (and possibly Nellie)

[jwa1107]

don't forget resigning Hendu after MIL waived him in the KVH trade
that was genius under-the-table maneuver

[jwa1107]

the Pavel trade was horrendous in retrospect
DAL could have kept its pick and drafted Linas Klezia or David Lee

[studcrackers]

i was fine with the pavel thing b/c if he'd have developed you got a 7'5 guy and they dont come by often

[FGump]

I'd grade Mavs personnel moves as follows (and because every team hits some and misses others, this is the only fair way, in my opinion).

Before Cuban owned Mavs* ...seasons 20
After Cuban owned Mavs ...seasons 7 (not counting this season)

Before Cuban owned Mavs* ...no playoffs for 10 years
After Cuban owned Mavs ...playoffs every year

Before Cuban owned Mavs* ... best record ever was 55-27, 2nd 53w, 3rd 44w
After Cuban owned Mavs ... 3 60-win seasons, WORST season was 52w (53, 57, 60, 52, 58, 60, 67)

Before Cuban owned Mavs* ... best playoffs = 1 trip to WC Finals
After Cuban owned Mavs ... best playoffs = 1 trip to NBA Finals, plus another to WC Finals

Before Cuban owned Mavs* ... playoff series won = 4
After Cuban owned Mavs ...playoff series won = 8

If you look at the details, there's always gonna be good and bad. But if you look at the total, it's an A+.





*I'm counting the partial season where Cuban bought the team in the middle of the year as "before Cuban"

[dirkforpres]

My favorite trade (aside from Tractor Traylor for Dirk) that happened under Cuban is the Walker and Delk for JET trade... Mark Cuban has been blessed with some great personnel moves under his management

[NuclearPalsy]

Just think how far this franchise has come...

When Dirk wasn't the second coming of Larry Bird this first couple of seasons he would get booed.
Nash's first year when he was quietly playing on a messed up ankle would look like he was dribbling out of control and would get booed after a turn over or a fall.

To bad that Cuban and Nellie got sideways with each other because they were a great combo.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

I think a Little General may have gotten in between them.

[NuclearPalsy]

Nah, I'm pretty sure Nellie went bezerk when he was told about not matching the Suns offer.

[SaintofKillers]

Mamadou N'Diaye's missing from that list

Walker actually wasn't that bad for us. He was averaging a double-double for the first half of the season while playing out of position and led Dallas to its first win at L.A. in years. And he was an absolute monster as our small ball center. He didn't play defense, but then again, so did everyone else except for our prized rooks.

[jwa1107]

the line that Cuban issued wherein DAL could not afford to sign Nash and S&T for Damp still irks me.

I bought into the idea that you don't give a huge contract to an older PG that was injury prone during his time in DAL, but please - saying you won't have enough money to S&T a player and resign your FA is too much for me...

[NuclearPalsy]

When Walker wasn't shooting 3's he was great. I think one of his problems was his conditioning.

[Chester0]

he really was great. his ball handling and passing ability was incredible for his size, and he wasn't bad in the post. further, he rebounded like a badass too. the 3's and the laziness were the problem though. and a huge problem.

[SaintofKillers]

Now that you mentioned it, I'm starting to think that part of Queasy's success was a result of Nash and Walker feeding him alley-oops, lobs, and creating switches for him to abuse smaller defenders at the post.