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Post#21 » by MainEv3nt » Sat May 10, 2008 1:00 am

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Post#22 » by studcrackers » Sat May 10, 2008 5:05 am

JES12 wrote:I'd support Dampier + Bass + Stack for JO and then sign Diop for full MLE.

C: O'neal (24 min) / Diop (24 min)
PF: Dirk (36 min) / O'neal (12 min)
SF: Howard (36 min) / R.Terry (12 min)
SG: Terry (36 min) / Jones (12 min)
PG Kidd (36 min) / Barea (12 min)


im going to assume ud rather antoine wright play then eddie jones, and id rather lue get the minutes then barea, i think he's more of a sparkplug. plus who would your 5th big man be b/c you know oneals going to get hurt
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Post#23 » by myconsumerclub » Sat May 10, 2008 6:39 am

We'd pick up Fazekas for the vet min
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Post#24 » by aschneider970 » Sat May 10, 2008 1:34 pm

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Post#25 » by Henry Turner » Sat May 10, 2008 2:26 pm

JES12 wrote:I'd support Dampier + Bass + Stack for JO and then sign Diop for full MLE.


why would indy do that deal?
They take a bad contract, a washed up guy and bass for JO. They'd better let JO's contract expire.
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Post#26 » by arkuo » Sat May 10, 2008 3:11 pm

i'd start wth something like this...

damp, josh, stack

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JO, foster (expiring)
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Post#27 » by Henry Turner » Sat May 10, 2008 3:18 pm

JO is an injury prone declining player.
He's not a post player either, I doubt that trading for him will significantly improve the team. Let's face this: if we keep dirk, we'd just have josh and in a lower value Bass as trading assets. Plus the MLE.
Problem is that if we trade josh we will need a starting Sf, we already need a starting SG and our bench sucks.
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Post#28 » by Henry Turner » Sat May 10, 2008 3:20 pm

arkuo wrote:i'd start wth something like this...

damp, josh, stack

for

JO, foster (expiring)


Granger and dunny jr are the only satisfactions of indy in their mediocre season. They don't need Josh.
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Post#29 » by Maverick Junkie » Sat May 10, 2008 4:44 pm

Use our full Midlevel on Diop is completely insane. We still have Damp who can play a majority of those minutes. Use the midlevel on J. R. Smith. He is a walk in starter at the two spot. He will be a much better player with an offence without Melo and Iverson who dominate the ball. Carlisle teams have always had a good shooting gaurd, (Miller and Rip) and we do not have one. Smith is restricted, but Denver is well over the cap and would have to make a decision to pay Smith 11 million a year with Iverson and Melo already taking most of the shots. I wonder if this is why Denver is listening to melo offers?

Smith can be a 35 minute a night player.

Diop will be a 15 minute a night player.

Work a sign and trade for the cheapest available Center between Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Patrick O Bryant or Diop. All are Free Agents.
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Post#30 » by studcrackers » Sat May 10, 2008 5:11 pm

smith isnt attainable, he's an RFA and he's worth more then the MLE (or at least some team would probably give him more then that)

if i was to sign a C free agent, it'd be francisco elson then diop then probably obryant to see if we can find something there. but elson will be a cheaper alternative then diop and is more athletic. if we want to upgrade a swingman it will likely have to come via trade.
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Post#31 » by studcrackers » Sat May 10, 2008 5:25 pm

as for looking for a G/SF id look towards james jones, bonzi or jarvis hayes, theres just not much talent out there free agents wise.
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Post#32 » by JES12 » Sun May 11, 2008 2:22 am

Henry Turner wrote:why would indy do that deal?
They take a bad contract, a washed up guy and bass for JO. They'd better let JO's contract expire.
Did you call Dampier's (2 yr $23.6 mil) and/or Stack's contract (2yr $9 mil) worse than O'neal's (2 yr $44.4 mil while missing 122 games over the last 4 years)?

LOL. I guess I don't need to respond to your question as I think your whole post is rhetorical sarcasm cuz Bass is easliy a great addition if their center is Murphy.
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Post#33 » by Rand10 » Sun May 11, 2008 2:48 am

Another thing you have to keep in mind is Bass' improvement. If you go with a center full time he'll only get very limited minutes and we'd be wasting a lot of talent. I think that if Diop signed here he would probably be looking at getting less than 18 mpg.
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Post#34 » by Henry Turner » Sun May 11, 2008 6:54 am

JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Did you call Dampier's (2 yr $23.6 mil) and/or Stack's contract (2yr $9 mil) worse than O'neal's (2 yr $44.4 mil while missing 122 games over the last 4 years)?

LOL. I guess I don't need to respond to your question as I think your whole post is rhetorical sarcasm cuz Bass is easliy a great addition if their center is Murphy.


Dude, JO has still some value and bass wouldn't be enough for indy. Don't forget for instance that we gave up one third of our team for grandpa. I don't say that JO could bring the equivalent but easily better deals than the one with damp, stack and bass.
If you are really high on this trade, go to the pacers board to ask for their opinions. Their answers might be a bit unfriendly.

And I think that bass' value is nt that high for the other franchises, we'd better keep him one more year.
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Post#35 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 11, 2008 7:05 am

JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Did you call Dampier's (2 yr $23.6 mil) and/or Stack's contract (2yr $9 mil) worse than O'neal's (2 yr $44.4 mil while missing 122 games over the last 4 years)?

LOL. I guess I don't need to respond to your question as I think your whole post is rhetorical sarcasm cuz Bass is easliy a great addition if their center is Murphy.


Now wait a second...you said that Bass and Howard could not get us a great player because other teams would under value Bass. Now you think Indy would trade JO for Bass.

What has changed in the past 2 weeks to increase Bass' value that much?

Sometimes I think you argue a point just to argue :D
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Post#36 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 11, 2008 7:15 am

Rand10 wrote:Another thing you have to keep in mind is Bass' improvement. If you go with a center full time he'll only get very limited minutes and we'd be wasting a lot of talent. I think that if Diop signed here he would probably be looking at getting less than 18 mpg.


Exactly!!!

I think we should consider getting a more suitable backup center with the MLE and upgrade our SG position by trading Bass.

Could Bass and Stack get us Mike Miller or Maggette?

If we go the rebuild route then I say we trade Dirk and keep Bass. If we make one last run at a championship, then I say we should trade Bass if there is an opportunity to upgrade the starting SG position.
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Post#37 » by JES12 » Sun May 11, 2008 5:40 pm

Teffer10 wrote:Now wait a second...you said that Bass and Howard could not get us a great player because other teams would under value Bass. Now you think Indy would trade JO for Bass.

What has changed in the past 2 weeks to increase Bass' value that much?

Sometimes I think you argue a point just to argue :D
I never said the avg Indiana fan without league pass would like the trade. I also said that I would support it...thus from a Mav's persepective. I never said Bass alone could net JO, but if you count the games they play, their age and their salary, Bass netting JO would not be too far off.

I think some of you read only what you want to read.

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