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Post#1 » by dtownmavs41 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:32 pm

There is a story about how teams are interested in Larry Hughes, and one of the possible trade pieces could be Erick Dampier. I absolutely hate Larry Hughes as a basketball player but I know how much some people want to see Damp leave. We would get out from his contract a year sooner and replace him with a SG that could start for this team. If the Bulls would do the trade do you think the mavs should go for it?
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Post#2 » by Rand10 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:36 pm

No no no nonononononono

Hughes is horrible and more overpaid than Dampier is.
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Post#3 » by dtownmavs41 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:57 pm

I agree but we could either get out from Damps contract a year sooner or we could keep Hughes for a while and use his contract as a trade piece if anyone wanted a 13 million dollar expiring after this season.

I don't know how much he would help us and he shoots a very low percentage but it would give us a much better player at SG than Green or Wright.

This would also free up more minutes for Bass if we plan to keep him around.
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Post#4 » by Rand10 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:01 pm

Damp and Hughes both have two years left. And do we really want a guy who shoots 38% from the field playing next to Kidd? Hughes is an injury prone chucker.
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Post#5 » by dtownmavs41 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:14 pm

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm

Ya he's injury prone but we would only need him to play 20-25 minutes a game. Maybe with fewer minutes he would be less likely to get hurt. Also Dampier has had some nagging injuries of late so I think we have about the same chance for either of them to get hurt.

I hate that Hughes shoots such a low percentage and he always has, but maybe under the right system and used the correct amount of time he could be efficient for us.

I would love if we could do this trade and maybe throw in Thabo and us add EJ. Or if not that maybe get a future pick or a protected pick. I know the bulls fans don't think we would take a Damp for Hughes straight up so we should try to get all we can out of that deal.
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Post#6 » by MavericksFan86 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:25 pm

Ok so what happens it Diop get's in foul trouble? there no way I would do this trade unless they give us a big like thomas or somebody else.
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Post#7 » by catalyst » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:27 pm

try again. Hughes only redeeming quality is that he is a good ball handler, which could make him a good terry partner. Cannot see it now at that salary and decline. I would rather try to get daniels back
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Post#8 » by dtownmavs41 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:14 pm

Daniels has two years left and next years is a team option at 7 mil so they will decline the option, so I can't see us getting him back this season but we could try to sign him as a FA. I'm sure our FO would love to overpay him like they did last time. He would be a decent fit here but we don't have anything to trade for him.

If Diop gets in foul trouble then we put in Bass or pick up another big man since there is a plethora of them around. We have 96 minutes at the PF and C position per game. Dirk will see about 38, Diop will get around 28 and Bass will get about 20 so we only need 10 minutes to hand out somewhere else. Rhodes or Sow could fill in that time or maybe Singleton could play PF and move dirk to Center if they need to.
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Post#9 » by littlemav » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:10 pm

NO! he is basically the same player as jason terry, why ruin our depth in the frontcourt? I could see this happening and then people wondering why we got involved with his contract halfway through the season
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Post#10 » by JES12 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:54 pm

If I could make a virus to destroy the hoopshype website, I would. Their salary info is wrong an almost everyone and anyone using hoopshype info for salary purposes should stop the converation at talant and forget the salary part of it.

Hughes 2 yr, 26.5 mil
Damp 2 yrs, 23.7 mil
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /bulls.jsp

Hughes gets paid 2.81 mil more than Damp over the life of their contracts and Damp is a better player and the only defensive 7 footer with moderate offensive skill we have.

Dampier over 63% from the field the last 2 years. Hughes under 39% the last 2 years.

Hughes is way more injury proned than Dampier. Hughes is better at steals (good defensive 2 guard), but he does not pull down 7.5 rebound and 1.5 blocks in half a game the way Damp does.


This is a relativley easy decision.....

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Post#11 » by JES12 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:56 pm

littlemav wrote:NO! he is basically the same player as jason terry


The topic is on Larry Hughes, who are you talking about?
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Post#12 » by dtownmavs41 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 1:42 am

I'm not sure what you're looking at on shamsports that says dampier only has 2 years remaining. Dampier has 2 years and a 3rd that is not guaranteed. If Dampier plays more than 2100 minutes in 70 games then his contract is guaranteed. He has done this twice in his career and both times were in contract seasons so the mavs or whichever team could keep him from doing this but there still is a possibility he has a 3rd year left on the contract.
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Post#13 » by cmavswin » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:18 am

I would rather have Eddie Jones starting all year than get Larry Bruise.
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Post#14 » by italy_23 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 5:51 am

hell no to hughes!
one of the lousiest starting 2 guards in the L. dont like him and his play at all.
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Post#15 » by JES12 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:31 am

dtownmavs41 wrote:I'm not sure what you're looking at on shamsports that says dampier only has 2 years remaining. Dampier has 2 years and a 3rd that is not guaranteed. If Dampier plays more than 2100 minutes in 70 games then his contract is guaranteed. He has done this twice in his career and both times were in contract seasons so the mavs or whichever team could keep him from doing this but there still is a possibility he has a 3rd year left on the contract.


In order to get 2100 minutes in 70 games, he would have to play 30 MPG and he never did that as a Mav, even without Diop after the trade.

And despite Damp's willing/unwillingess to oblidge, the coach and upper management controls his minutes, so if they want him to be expiring, they can. And it's not not like Damp even has a case with the players association since he never reached 30 MPG as a Mav, nor at any time over 28yo, nor with a backup center (Diop) and PF (Bass) to eat away at his minutes.

If Damp can miraculously get 30 MPG 2009-10 at age 34, that would neam that he is playing well enough to bench both Diop (age 27) and Bass (25) or whatever player we have at the time....and that just ain't happening.

But he woud still be more useful at age 34 than Hughes at age 31.

Oh, and one other thing, I really doubt he will be fighting hard for 13 mil. His contract year he was fighting for 70 mil.
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Post#16 » by jwa1107 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:26 pm

rather have Damp than Hughes

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