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Re: Dallas Mavs To-Do List: Shop Josh Howard???? 

Post#21 » by Management » Tue Aug 5, 2008 3:25 pm

JES12 wrote:Bass >>> Wilcox defensively. and all his stats are pretty similar on a per minute basis. And everything you said about Wilcox can be said for Bass. Given Bass' incumbancy, Wilcox would be 3rd string PF.

And Ridnour SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS. And Barea as a 2nd year player did better than Ridnour did last your.


So in short, you are dumb and undervaluing what is right here in front of your eyes.


Oh oh,

I think it's easier to get points with the Mavs than the Sonics. And only comparing the last years is very lame, you also know it.

Form 2004-2006 Ridnour was a very decent player for the Sonics and could do it here when he has a good player where he can pass the ball to, something Barea has no brain for, also never seen defense from Barea...

Bass would never average these stats against the 1st unit of a team like Wilcox.
Bass plays against the other bench, Wilcox against other starters...so no comparison possible.
Wilcox is the better player right now and also has more potential left than Bass.
I think Bass is at his peak now!

And Green's second year in the league is similar to JHo's and Green has definitely more potential, you will see it next year!

So when you think I'm dumb saying this deal is about the best we can get for JHo and Stack, then it's okay.

But with a GM like you there would never be a trade that don't rob other team, so there would be no real trades. It's about compromise...
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Re: Dallas Mavs To-Do List: Shop Josh Howard???? 

Post#22 » by dirkforpres » Tue Aug 5, 2008 8:35 pm

No team wants Josh Howard. Hes nothing but a distraction and his value is lower than ever. If the Mavs trade him, they should at least wait till the trade deadline. The same should go with Jason Kidd.
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Re: Dallas Mavs To-Do List: Shop Josh Howard???? 

Post#23 » by JES12 » Tue Aug 5, 2008 11:06 pm

Management wrote:I think it's easier to get points with the Mavs than the Sonics. And only comparing the last years is very lame, you also know it.

Form 2004-2006 Ridnour was a very decent player for the Sonics and could do it here when he has a good player where he can pass the ball to, something Barea has no brain for, also never seen defense from Barea...

Bass would never average these stats against the 1st unit of a team like Wilcox.
Bass plays against the other bench, Wilcox against other starters...so no comparison possible.
Wilcox is the better player right now and also has more potential left than Bass.
I think Bass is at his peak now!

And Green's second year in the league is similar to JHo's and Green has definitely more potential, you will see it next year!

So when you think I'm dumb saying this deal is about the best we can get for JHo and Stack, then it's okay.

But with a GM like you there would never be a trade that don't rob other team, so there would be no real trades. It's about compromise...


Ridnour had one good contract year and has laid eggs ever since....AND YOU KNOW IT!
Ridnour plays LESS defense than Barea....AND YOU KNOW IT!
Bass plays against STARTERS....AND YOU KNOW IT
Bass has not reached his peak....AND YOU KNOW IT!
Green may be better than Howard in 3, maybe 6 years from now, but while Kidd is on our team Howard would be at least 3 ">'s" better than Green...AND YOU KNOW IT!
And there is nothing wrong with making a trade to rebuild OR a trade to compete now, but if you want to linger in the middle, you will be the KIngs....AND YOU KNOW IT!
There is nothing wrong with ONLY doing a trade to upgrade your team....watering down talent is not an upgrade adn equates to missing the playoffs all together...AND YOU KNOW IT!

Why you are even arguing this, is what I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!
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Re: Dallas Mavs To-Do List: Shop Josh Howard???? 

Post#24 » by italy_23 » Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:40 am

wow, you guys must KNOW IT all now!
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Re: Dallas Mavs To-Do List: Shop Josh Howard???? 

Post#25 » by Management » Thu Aug 7, 2008 6:49 pm

JES12 wrote:Ridnour had one good contract year and has laid eggs ever since....AND YOU KNOW IT!


=> But he's capable of playing better than Barea, he has shown it.


Ridnour plays LESS defense than Barea....AND YOU KNOW IT!

=> No, let alone he's bigger than Barea he can defend the PG's easier. Both play hardly defense, that's sure.


Bass plays against STARTERS....AND YOU KNOW IT

=> Not all the time like Wilcox...when you comparing percentages who's playing the starters more, Wilcox will win!

Bass has not reached his peak....AND YOU KNOW IT!

=> Per 48 Min he has reached his peak and I don't think he can get more than 12-13 ppg (with more minutes, like the 28 Min Wilcox gets) and 7-8 boards, I rather had Millsap (same talent-range) than Bass. You're so overvaluing him, when he gets more cash like Wilcox, he will become fat and lazy, look out!


Green may be better than Howard in 3, maybe 6 years from now, but while Kidd is on our team Howard would be at least 3 ">'s" better than Green...AND YOU KNOW IT!

=>Green is younger and more intelligent than Howard, and in a couple of years also better. With Howard you can't start a rebuilding!

And there is nothing wrong with making a trade to rebuild OR a trade to compete now, but if you want to linger in the middle, you will be the KIngs....AND YOU KNOW IT!

=> You're the one blocking trades to rebuild, I want Jeff Green, not you! I same the same opinion that we should stop becoming the Kings of nowadays, it's hard for every fan.

But trading for Green while keeping Dirk, let JET & JHo go for young talent and picks and trade away the expiring contracts of Stack, Damp and Kidd over the next couple years that would restart our franchise in 2-3 years.

Where are trades left to compete now? We don't have what other team want for these players...


There is nothing wrong with ONLY doing a trade to upgrade your team....watering down talent is not an upgrade adn equates to missing the playoffs all together...AND YOU KNOW IT!

=> Green brings more talent and Bass is not that kind of talent I want, when he would be a 7-foot-center and bringing already 2-3 more boards home, that the talent we need, not a Dirk-backup for the next 5-6 years!
And when JHo will get suspended the next time, maybe a brawl, I think he would enjoy it, he's again useless.


Why you are even arguing this, is what I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!
=> Why you are even arguing this, is what I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!
Only thing I know is that you don't like the truth. Heard Magic's words? Hard but true...
FYI Barea, Bass and our other "talents" are minimum-wage players on every team in the league...They rock the D-League or WNBA without a doubt but they are "benchplayers for life"! in the NBA

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