Why not pursue Shaun Livingston?

[jlp0807]

Can someone tell me why the Mavs aren't pursuing Shaun Livingston?

I know he was very injured, but other teams are taking a look at him. It seems to me that he would be low risk salary wise, and could be high reward. We desperately need a backup PG to play behind Kidd, and JJB isnt that guy.

What if Livingston gets back to his old form (once thought of as the future of the PG position)? Kidd cant play as many minutes any more. Someone other than JET will have to play at least 12 mpg at PG.

If Livingston gets hurt again, we really will not have invested too much in him because we could get him at the minimum.

Why not?

[mffl_14]

I'm all for it. If we are signing guys like Gerald Green we might as well be taking flyers on other postions we need.

[Darren]

Coz he can't provide medical report to Portland Blazers.
His injury may be beyond your expectation.
You may want Marbury more than he does.

[SaintofKillers]

How would Livingston help us?

Please do so without saying "young" and "upside".

[JES12]

Livingston may be looking for more than vet min, and Dallas has nothing to offer him. I don't think he is worth more than vet min, but Shawn and his agent may think differently.

He is not an upgrade to Kidd or Terry right now. Maybe...not even an upgrade to Barea due to his injury.

[jlp0807]

What could Livingston offer us? How about a back up PG since there isnt one on the roster. Please dont tell me JJB is the one.

We have one of the oldest, if not THE oldest starting PG in the League and have no quality backup. I know its a huge IF, but if Livingston is in fact healthy, he could play 10 -12 minutes as our backup PG. And, what happens if he is healthy and still has most of his ability? Its not like we have a long term solution at PG. If he doesnt play well, he lasts one year.

Terry should be the starting SG, so he could not play all of the PG minutes when Kidd is resting.

Look, Im not talking about signing him to a huge contract or making him the starter, but we do need to do something. Make him a one year offer with team option for a second. That is the best he will get from anyone else. Why not try somewhere like Dallas who at least has a chance to win rather than Minnesota, who will win about 30 games.

Also, I dont know who wrote Marbury on here but that makes me want to puke.

[SaintofKillers]

What could Livingston offer us? How about a back up PG since there isnt one on the roster. Please dont tell me JJB is the one.

Considering that a back-up point guard only needs to play 10 minutes at most (possibly even less because this is Jason Kidd we're talking about), yes, Barea is a back-up PG. A mediocre one, but a backup nonetheless. Compared to Livingston it's not even close; he can walk for one, and doesn't break a random part if he touches a basketball.

Throw in Marbury to the mix -- who would be an above average backup PG on any team -- and I don't know what the hell you're thinking.

[JD45]

Marbury might be better, but if there is even a 20% chance Livingston comes back, I would try to sign him

[jlp0807]

Again. I want no part of Marbury. Name one team that he has played for that didnt completely implode (or just suck). If we bring Marbury in, why not resign antoine walker ... ugh.

[SaintofKillers]

Name one team that he has played for that didnt completely implode (or just suck).

See, the problem with that cliche is it doesn't tell much. It's a lot like Avery having a .700 winning percentage; does that automatically mean he's an awesome coach? Camby has 1-million blocks and steals; is he really that good of a defender? Leave the lazy trivia to the press; they thrive on that. A message board gives you the freedom to expound; use it.

That said, let's go through all the teams he's played for and debunk the "lol cancer" stuff: Marbury had a great run in Minnesota and led the Suns to the playoffs - that's 2 teams. But wait, Saint - how come they got better when he left? Minnesota didn't get better actually, although they did remain afloat in the winning column thanks to having Terrell Brandon (and later Billups) to stabilize the position after his departure. The Suns on the other hand not only got Nash but also an Amare who now has a jumpshot and is finally healthy (the reason why they sucked and had to trade Starbury in the first place), an improved Joe Johnson and Barbosa, and acquired Q.

Okay, Saint you got me, but what about the other teams like New Jersey and New York? Everyone was injured all the time in NJ, even him. Ironically when he was traded for Kidd, everyone played a whole season (or close enough) that year, most notably Kittles and Van Horn. As for New York, you can't be serious.

[Pointguard01]

Its not even worth discussing. He wouldnt play unless Kidd/Terry gets injuried, and if that happens, doesnt really matter who the hell is taking their spot because we cant afford to lose anyone with the type of team we have. We arent even that good healthy.

[from_ro_to_dirk]

um..how would we even get Marbury? and dont say Dampier.

[JD45]

um..how would we even get Marbury? and dont say Dampier.

When the Knicks release him.

[vincecarter4pres]

He would want more than the vet minimum IMO.
Marbury I mean.
Plus he would probably want to start, which he wouldn't on the Mavericks.

And Livingston almost definitely wants more than the minimum.
He turned down something like 4 mill for one year from LAC.
Now his main reasoning was he wanted a multiyear deal, but I would imagine he would still want maybe 2.5 a year for like 3 or 4 years with the final year as a team option (or 3rd year with the 4th as a player option for a 4 year).

[catalyst]

Neither one fo these guys does anything for mavs. Between Kidd, Terry, and JJB, mavs are OK At PG. The bigger issue is next year, when I am not fond of re-signing Kidd

[dirkforpres]

Marbury brings more than Livingston at this point. At least we know he can still play. Im anxious to see what he does outside of Isiah's system this year regardless of whether they release him or not.