Game 9 November 14, 2008: Orlando Magic Vs. Dallas Mavericks

[italy_23]

wow. I'm almost speechless
what is going on here right now???! do they lose on purpose? it sure seems so. wtf was josh howard doing there at the end? well, at least he is constant in making these errors in the forth, you gotta give him that.

[italy_23]

btw, dirk needs to take that last shot. if he misses, than at least we would have gone with our best player. if somebody else takes this shot I always wonder what dirk would have done.

[italy_23]

this team has to come together real quick now. 2-7 doesnt look nice and it certainly doesnt feel good. omg I hope we can somehow upgrade this roster

[Teffer10]

Questionable call on Kidd at the end.

Regardless watching this team is like the movie Groundhog day. Solid play. Solid lead. Completely implode in the fourth quarter. Over. And Over. And Over. And Over Again.

This team definitely needs someone who can create for himself, get to the line, and can draw attention away from Dirk.

VC might be a solution for that problem . However, I would rather see this team begin the rebuild process immediately.

If the Mavs can dump Terry, Damp, and Howard's contracts for expirings, I'd be all for that...even if Bass and Wright have to go with them. Then possibly resign Kidd with MLE and go after some of the 09 FAs. Not sure who is on the list of FAs in 09 though.

[SpeedyG]

This team is too much of a jumpshooting team. It lives and dies by its jumpshot, and with Dirk and Jet being the two who you can consider even remotely as "good shooters", it's not a very good jumpshooting team either. There's two things the Mavs can get that could fix that: a post offense threat or a dribble-penetrator.

First of all, I think it's time to concede that Dirk is not a post player. Dollar bills Lewis!!!!! When a 7 footer can't protect the ball from a scrawny SF playing out of position as PF, he really shouldn't get the ball in the post with his back to the basket. Those type of players should be the ones Dirk punishes in the post. Instead, they are the ones that seems to give him fits.

Anyway, back to the point. Is it time to consider a Dirk/Bass frontcourt? I know it makes the team small, and Dirk isn't exactly a center, but Bass is the one athletic and bruising guy the Mavs have in their frontcourt, and the one guy who you can go to in the post.

Josh Howard is Josh Howard. Good from 1-3, doesn't do much in the 4th.

I mean, when the player trying to drive and penetrate in the 4th to get to the line is your 30+ year old PG (who's not a scorer) there's something wrong with the roster.

As someone who suggested Vince as an option, as a Net fan, trust me, you don't want to go there. Super talented guy, but the guy is just so up-and-down he'll make your head hurt. The only way the Mavs should consider Vince is if it's Josh that's going out to get him. Or even less spare parts. But we know that's not going to happen.

It's not there yet, but I think the time to break this team apart is very near.

[Teffer10]

This team is too much of a jumpshooting team. It lives and dies by its jumpshot, and with Dirk and Jet being the two who you can consider even remotely as "good shooters", it's not a very good jumpshooting team either. There's two things the Mavs can get that could fix that: a post offense threat or a dribble-penetrator.

First of all, I think it's time to concede that Dirk is not a post player. Dollar bills Lewis!!!!! When a 7 footer can't protect the ball from a scrawny SF playing out of position as PF, he really shouldn't get the ball in the post with his back to the basket. Those type of players should be the ones Dirk punishes in the post. Instead, they are the ones that seems to give him fits.

Anyway, back to the point. Is it time to consider a Dirk/Bass frontcourt? I know it makes the team small, and Dirk isn't exactly a center, but Bass is the one athletic and bruising guy the Mavs have in their frontcourt, and the one guy who you can go to in the post.

Josh Howard is Josh Howard. Good from 1-3, doesn't do much in the 4th.

I mean, when the player trying to drive and penetrate in the 4th to get to the line is your 30+ year old PG (who's not a scorer) there's something wrong with the roster.

As someone who suggested Vince as an option, as a Net fan, trust me, you don't want to go there. Super talented guy, but the guy is just so up-and-down he'll make your head hurt. The only way the Mavs should consider Vince is if it's Josh that's going out to get him. Or even less spare parts. But we know that's not going to happen.

It's not there yet, but I think the time to break this team apart is very near.

I don't agree with the Dirk/Bass front court but much of what you say here makes sense. Bass addresses one of our greatest needs that you mention, but cause problems in other areas if he is playing the 5. I love Dirk but feel that he creates some real challenges for us in certain situations. However, if Bass gets the minutes then we are severely hurting on the offensive end.
Once again, this team needs players who can play both ways.
VC is probably not the answer, but he is capable of getting his own shot, can get to the rim aggressively, and will pull defensive attention away from Dirk. Howard could be that person but chooses to disappear in the final quarter.
I would trade Howard for VC straight up at this point if it was possible.
I"m sure others won't agree with the VC idea, but we need an explosive guy who likes to play aggressive in the closing minutes. This jumpshooting crap is ridiculous. I counted 9 trips in a row in the 4th quarter where we settled for jumpers.

[Captain_Obvious]

You guys saw the boxscores?
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281114006
Orlando only had 6 Assists for starters and another 6 assists on their bench.

Not one player on this team can stay in front of his man. Its the man-to-man defense and poor defense on pick and roll plays that pretty much makes our defense obsolete, even more to jumpshooting teams. And the FO hasnt reacted to this in ages, how can you stay content with such a misconception?

[jtg41]

So the way we are going to handle this is wait it out, remain optimistic, and watch the same team continue to play the way they play and turn it around because we still believe they can win it all.

Just talking through the eyes of Cuban.

The Knicks next...yuck.