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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#101 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:14 am

That's kind of the point ... he was predictable which is why Dirk took the crap shot because of the piss poor play call.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#102 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:18 am

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ahonui06 wrote:RC is an idiot...Running a play for DIRK at the 3 point line for the last shot SMH

Yeah, it's Carlisle's fault Dirk can't get open anywhere else. Always Rick. Every game! Not Dirk for being a p_ssy, but Rick's. It's Rick's fault Dirk did not go straight up and draw the foul and instead he made Dirk, from the sideline, shoot while leaning back 60 f'n degrees. :roll:
Kobe. Billups. Poerce. You know, all the smart ones who have a ring already would have won that game from the stipe. Toob bad Rick don't have any of them on this team.

Hell, the only thing I blame Rock for is being too predictable. Everyone knows the Ball was going to Dirk.Dirk should not have gotten the ball....especially since he wasn't man enough to get open.


Haha. Didn't you watch that play develop. They set a double screen for DIRK on the far side of the court around the 20 foot mark. DIRK had to curl around the double screen and get the ball. If RC was smart he could've just ran the same play that was run against Memphis. Iso DIRK right at the FT line.

It's OK JES, I know you have something against DIRK, but that last play was terribly drawn up.
I have something against you thinking Dirk is the source of all things perfect and everyone else is a pile of manure.

Dirk just shown why he is not mentally tough and does not have as high of a BBIQ as we need in our star player to be legit contenders.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#103 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:27 am

[/quote]I have something against you thinking Dirk is the source of all things perfect and everyone else is a pile of manure.

Dirk just shown why he is not mentally tough and does not have as high of a BBIQ as we need in our star player to be legit contenders.[/quote]

So by calling out Carlisle that automatically means we are saying the rest of the teams sucks and Dirk is perfection? If I am understanding you right? Not sure I really get it?

It really amazes me that anyone could question Dirks mental toughness or IQ. Especially considering I know how much you watch this team. Does he make mistakes yes. Dirk is not perfect ... there it has been said ! But come on what you're saying makes no sense!
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#104 » by Mavs2theFinals » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:34 am

mffl_14 wrote:
I have something against you thinking Dirk is the source of all things perfect and everyone else is a pile of manure.

Dirk just shown why he is not mentally tough and does not have as high of a BBIQ as we need in our star player to be legit contenders.[/quote]

So by calling out Carlisle that automatically means we are saying the rest of the teams sucks and Dirk is perfection? If I am understanding you right? Not sure I really get it?

It really amazes me that anyone could question Dirks mental toughness or IQ. Especially considering I know how much you watch this team. Does he make mistakes yes. Dirk is not perfect ... there it has been said ! But come on what you're saying makes no sense![/quote]

I'm gonna have to agree with you, calling out Dirk on his bball IQ or mental toughness is going way too far now. Its pretty obvious that the right players arent playing when they are supposed to and who they are supposed to play with so that points the finger at guess who? RC.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#105 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:36 am

mffl_14 wrote:So by calling out Carlisle that automatically means we are saying the rest of the teams sucks and Dirk is perfection? If I am understanding you right? Not sure I really get it?

It really amazes me that anyone could question Dirks mental toughness or IQ. Especially considering I know how much you watch this team. Does he make mistakes yes. Dirk is not perfect ... there it has been said ! But come on what you're saying makes no sense!

Read his posts. Nothing is ever Dirk's fault. It is either the other players....and when Dirk is not shooting the ball every play, it is Rick's fault. Dirk is this perfect player according to him.

Amd yes, Dirk definately deserves most of the blame in the 4th quarter and all of the blame for his execution of the last play.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#106 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:43 am

JES12 wrote:
mffl_14 wrote:So by calling out Carlisle that automatically means we are saying the rest of the teams sucks and Dirk is perfection? If I am understanding you right? Not sure I really get it?

It really amazes me that anyone could question Dirks mental toughness or IQ. Especially considering I know how much you watch this team. Does he make mistakes yes. Dirk is not perfect ... there it has been said ! But come on what you're saying makes no sense!

Read his posts. Nothing is ever Dirk's fault. It is either the other players....and when Dirk is not shooting the ball every play, it is Rick's fault. Dirk is this perfect player according to him.

Amd yes, Dirk definately deserves most of the blame in the 4th quarter and all of the blame for his execution of the last play.


We will just have to agree to disagree again. I hated the shot but I didn't think he was set up well to begin with. I just want to know when does Carlisle begin to bear responsibility? He is doing to Roddy exactly what he did to him last year and I believe that is costing this team and it's costing Roddy's development for the future.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#107 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:47 am

mffl_14 wrote:We will just have to agree to disagree again. I hated the shot but I didn't think he was set up well to begin with. I just want to know when does Carlisle begin to bear responsibility? He is doing to Roddy exactly what he did to him last year and I believe that is costing this team and it's costing Roddy's development for the future.

He already does with his guard play. If we had Roddy or some guy that can make the defense play honest, Dirk would not have a hard time shooting the ball.

But Dirk could have won that game very, very easily. Just go straight up....the defense was about to foul the hell out of you and you back off like a little pussy and jack up that ugly ass shot.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#108 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:51 am

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mffl_14 wrote:We will just have to agree to disagree again. I hated the shot but I didn't think he was set up well to begin with. I just want to know when does Carlisle begin to bear responsibility? He is doing to Roddy exactly what he did to him last year and I believe that is costing this team and it's costing Roddy's development for the future.

He already does with his guard play. If we had Roddy or some guy that can make the defense play honest, Dirk would not have a hard time shooting the ball.

But Dirk could have won that game very, very easily. Just go straight up....the defense was about to foul the hell out of you and you back off like a little pussy and jack up that ugly ass shot.


Hey no argument it was a horrible shot. But they were not going to foul a career 89% FT shooter with a 1 point lead. I think he partly lost his footing but the fact he was set up out there was stupid in the first place but like I said earlier we just agree to disagree.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#109 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:57 am

Dirk also could not get a rebound and in favct fouled Okafor for a 3 point play. I bet that was Rick's fault too.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#110 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:59 am

mffl_14 wrote:But they were not going to foul a career 89% FT shooter with a 1 point lead.

Watch the replay. Dirk just had to go straight up. Okafor was over-playing Dirk and was eagerly about to lay Dirk on the ground. Instead, Dirk decided to lean back ot a 60 degree angle. If he would have went straight up, there is no way he doesn't get fouled.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#111 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:05 am

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mffl_14 wrote:But they were not going to foul a career 89% FT shooter with a 1 point lead.

Watch the replay. Dirk just had to go straight up. Okafor was over-playing Dirk and was eagerly about to lay Dirk on the ground. Instead, Dirk decided to lean back ot a 60 degree angle. If he would have went straight up, there is no way he doesn't get fouled.


Your right Monty Williams probably told him go ahead and foul Dirk because he isn't mentally tough enough to hit free throws to tie the game or win it. I didn't see what you saw but that's nothing new. So I give up this debate for bed !
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#112 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:08 am

See, look. Okafor already had his arm on Dirk. If Dirk went straight up....bam! Foul.
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Instead, Dirk does this:
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No way anyone in Boston (Rondo, Allen, Pierce) or other champions like Billups and Kobe does that.


mffl_14 wrote: I didn't see what you saw but that's nothing new. So I give up this debate for bed !
If you can't see that then you need to take off your Dirk homer glasses too. Dirk had the biggest role un our 4th quarter collapse of all parties involved. He even capped it off.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#113 » by mffl_14 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:18 am

That's just horrible Okafor is playing man defense on him of course he's not gonna leave Dirk open. Dirk's fade away was ugly because his footing sucked and he just chunked the ball up there. Give me a break. We are arguing over nothing here. It's not Dirk homer glasses it's him shooting a crappy shot yes but it's not because he was going to draw a foul. And pulling the whole champions don't miss big shots its ridiculous too because I have seen them miss plenty as well. And Dirk has hit his fair share of game winning and big shots. Did he tonight no, was it an ugly shot yes, did Carlisle draw up a play that put the team or Dirk in the best position in my opinion no.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#114 » by Copperhead » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:25 am

ahonui06 wrote:Stern owns the Hornets....The fix is in


Stern didn't tell Chandler to go up there and miss two crucial free throws that would've more than likely put the game away for the Mavs. :lol: West gets a tech for shoving Cardinal yet Cardinal doesn't get a tech for shoving West first. :lol: Yeah, the fix was in alright. If the fix was in I'd like to think the Hornets would have at least 40 wins by now. :roll:
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#115 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:27 am

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ahonui06 wrote:Stern owns the Hornets....The fix is in


Stern didn't tell Chandler to go up there and miss two crucial free throws that would've more than likely put the game away for the Mavs. :lol: West gets a tech for shoving Cardinal yet Cardinal doesn't get a tech for shoving West first. :lol: Yeah, the fix was in alright. If the fix was in I'd like to think the Hornets would have at least 40 wins by now. :roll:

And on that same play, West did NOT get called for the bull doze he did on Dirk. At least use a good example if you want to use on at all.

And lol at thinking Cardinal did anything. The Hornet's anouncers was dumb. I listend to their crappy call and the only things that should have happened was Persona and tech....both on West.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#116 » by Copperhead » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:27 am

JES12 wrote:
mffl_14 wrote:But Dirk could have won that game very, very easily. Just go straight up....the defense was about to foul the hell out of you and you back off like a little pussy and jack up that ugly ass shot.


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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#117 » by Copperhead » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:28 am

JES12 wrote:
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ahonui06 wrote:Stern owns the Hornets....The fix is in


Stern didn't tell Chandler to go up there and miss two crucial free throws that would've more than likely put the game away for the Mavs. :lol: West gets a tech for shoving Cardinal yet Cardinal doesn't get a tech for shoving West first. :lol: Yeah, the fix was in alright. If the fix was in I'd like to think the Hornets would have at least 40 wins by now. :roll:

And on that same play, West did NOT get called for the bull doze he did on Dirk. At least use a good example if you want to use on at all.


You still were the ones rewarded the extra point.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#118 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 am

Copperhead wrote:You still were the ones rewarded the extra point.

There should have been 3 free throws for Dallas (2 Dirk and 1 tech) and none for New Orleans. Even if no tech was called, we were still jipped 2 Dirk free throws because no call was called on West for his bull doze of Dirk. We were in the penelty and should have been shooting 2 free thows.

That does not excuse Dirk fouling Okafor, Dirk not getting rebounds, Dirk thowing the pass to Bellineli and having low BBIQ on the last play, but on the play YOU mention, that was all bull ****.
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#119 » by ahonui06 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:07 am

All this was DIRK's fault in the 4th, yet he scored 10 of the 22 4th quarter points....
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Re: Game 64 March 9, 2011: Mavs at Hornets 

Post#120 » by dyukcs » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:46 am

I agree with that, I don't think we'd have had a lead to blow without Dirk carrying the offense. Kidd and Terry were playing worse defense without contributing nearly as much on the offensive end. And if we're talking about the last minute Kidd fouling at the 3 point line was worse than the Dirk turnover.

If Dirk had kept his head, he could've gotten better footing to attempt that shot or draw a foul. But other than saying he's the team leader and bears the most responsibility, he wasn't in the top 3 reasons why we lost this game.

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